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In reply to the discussion: Time for Democrats to cut ties with Joe Manchin [View all]Celerity
(54,318 posts)55. no, he blocked Neera Tanden for OMB head and forced Biden to pull the plug on her nomination when he
went public, on the record, as a no vote for her nomination.
Sen. Manchin opposes Neera Tanden as Biden's budget chief, imperiling nomination
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/joe-manchin-comes-out-against-neera-tanden-biden-s-omb-n1258387
White House pulls nomination of embattled budget chief pick Neera Tanden
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/white-house-pulls-nomination-embattled-budget-chief-pick-neera-tanden-n1258738
Also, the SCOTUS is whole other kettle of fish from lower federal courts.
I trust Manchin as far as I could toss him, he has repeatedly shown poor judgement:
https://www.gq.com/story/joe-manchin-last-democrat-in-trump-country
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After Trump's shocking victory in 2016, Manchin was perhaps the only member of his party willing to express optimism about what lay ahead. I don't think Donald Trump is far to the right, Manchin told me a few days before Trump's inauguration. I think he's pretty much centrista moderate, centrist conservative Democrat. Manchin marvelled about how willing Trump seemed to be to listen to others (in contrast to Barack Obama, who, Manchin told me, didn't seem like he had any empathy for anyone left behind because of a policy and his desire for social changes he wanted). We couldn't get through before, Manchin said. You can get through to this guy.
Eighteen months later, despite all the evidence to the contrary, he stubbornly stands by his assessment. Every time I've hung around the president, he is always much more comfortable trying to work something in a bipartisan way, Manchin told me this past summer. He tries to do the reasonable thing, the responsible thing. As for why that attitude hasn't been reflected in the White House's legislative priorities or his public rhetoric, Manchin could only speculate and make excuses. I think the political people around him or whatever have gotten him to believe we don't need to be bipartisan, he offered.
Eighteen months later, despite all the evidence to the contrary, he stubbornly stands by his assessment. Every time I've hung around the president, he is always much more comfortable trying to work something in a bipartisan way, Manchin told me this past summer. He tries to do the reasonable thing, the responsible thing. As for why that attitude hasn't been reflected in the White House's legislative priorities or his public rhetoric, Manchin could only speculate and make excuses. I think the political people around him or whatever have gotten him to believe we don't need to be bipartisan, he offered.
from Manchin's own site
https://www.manchin.senate.gov/about/bipartisanship/legislation
Senator Manchin Votes with President Trump.
Since 2011, no Democrat currently serving in the Senate has split with the party more often, including 80 votes in which Senator Manchin was the only Democrat to break with his party and vote with the majority of Senate Republicans.
Overall, Senator Manchin has voted with the majority of Senate Republicans on 1,172 different votes or 54% of the votes he has taken as a United States Senator.
Since President Trump was inaugurated, no Senator (Democrat or Republican) has split with their party more often than Senator Manchin, including 23 votes in which he was the only Democrat to vote with the Republicans on issues such as:
Immigration Senator Manchin strongly supported President Trumps immigration proposal and was the only Democrat to oppose a separate bipartisan proposal that provided zero funding for border security;
Increasing Domestic Energy Production On two separate occasions, Senator Manchin cast the lone Democratic vote to support opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) for drilling;
Confirming Trump Nominees No Democratic Senator has voted to confirm more Trump nominees (115) than Senator Manchin. Senator Manchin voted to confirm his nominee to serve on the Supreme Court, Justice Neil Gorsuch. On nine occasions, Senator Manchin was the only Democrat to vote to confirm Trump nominees, including two cabinet Secretaries, three circuit court judges, and various other nominees.
Senator Manchin has voted with the Trump Administration 74% of the time and shares many of the Presidents priorities when it comes to promoting fair trade, repealing Obama-era regulations, and protecting our national security:
Promoting Fair Trade Senator Manchin voted against the U.S. Korea Free Trade Agreement, the U.S. Panama Trade Promotion Agreement, and the U.S. Columbia Trade Promotion Agreement in 2011. Senator Manchin also voted against the Trade Act of 2015 and the Trade Promotion Authority the Obama Administration used to try to negotiate other trade deals.
Repealing Obama-era Regulations In 2011, Senator Manchin voted against the Environmental Protection Agencys efforts to expand their regulatory jurisdiction over air quality. In 2012, he repeatedly supported a legislative stay on the EPAs Maximum Achievable Control Technology standards. In 2013, he voted against Obamas nominee to run the EPA, Gina McCarthy. In 2015, Senator Manchin was one of the few Democrats to support the Keystone XL pipeline. In 2016, he opposed the Waters of the United States rule. In 2017, Senator Manchin helped lead the effort to repeal the duplicative and unnecessary Stream Protection Rule.
Protecting our National Security Senator Manchin opposed the Iran Deal in 2015 and has repeatedly voted to stop Sanctuary Cities and ensure that our federal laws are enforced consistently throughout the country.
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better to just put him on party wide ignore. dont take his calls or respond to his emails. vanish
msongs
Nov 2021
#1
No...we need to keep the majority every single day that we can. If Thomas, Alito drop dead
PortTack
Nov 2021
#3
Manchin will likely only support a moderate, slightly conservative SCOTUS nominee
Celerity
Nov 2021
#13
and if McConnell is Leader then no Biden nominee will get any vote at all.
ZonkerHarris
Nov 2021
#16
that has nothing to do with what I said, I have never once said that Manchin should switch parties
Celerity
Nov 2021
#21
Yes, but your comment to me was not germane to anything I have said, and implied that I somehow
Celerity
Nov 2021
#25
Oh really? How so? Do tell. You are now trying to slate me off, so put up some evidence, instead of
Celerity
Nov 2021
#35
no, he blocked Neera Tanden for OMB head and forced Biden to pull the plug on her nomination when he
Celerity
Nov 2021
#55
Translation: Hand Mitch McConnell the reins of the Senate as Leader. No f'n thanks
ZonkerHarris
Nov 2021
#14
As fucked up as Manchin is making this, it will be infinitely worse with Mitch
themaguffin
Nov 2021
#44
$1.9 trillion in a relief funding, $1.2 trillion in hard infrastructure, and $1.75 trillion
lapucelle
Nov 2021
#38
that is based off final votes only, it is laughable to imply Manchin supports Biden's agenda 100%
Celerity
Nov 2021
#30
More spin, Sander's 2 protest votes blocked nothing, whilst Manchin and Sinema are ripping Biden's
Celerity
Nov 2021
#39
President Biden gave Democrats his number on October 1. It was $1.9 - $2.3 trillion.
lapucelle
Nov 2021
#42
That was NOT Biden's original number, as I have shown over and over and over, for months.
Celerity
Nov 2021
#43
Most of that is either outright false or misrepresented revisionist spin based off misstated
Celerity
Nov 2021
#57
So you will be happy with Joe Biden not getting any more judges confirmed?
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2021
#27
i feel your pain but guess what we have a 50-50 senate. democrats need to win more seats in 22.
dsp3000
Nov 2021
#46
Absolutely not. If we push Manchin out of the party then we lose control of the Senate and the
totodeinhere
Nov 2021
#62