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lumberjack_jeff

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74. White men have two choices.

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:07 PM

Oct 2012

Republicans; "We understand your problems and your pain. It's because of (insert bogus bogeyman here)"
Democrats; "You don't have problems, you have privilege. Other people have problems, and their problem is you."

There has to be a way to bring men back to the party which doesn't mean abandoning social justice.

If you don't know wedge issues, you could do worse than a peek downthread. "White men? Fuck 'em."

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OK men - we need to have a heart to heart with...men! 538 blog on the Gender Gap... [View all] NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 OP

No wonder that tea bagger woman said women shouldn't vote. LisaL Oct 2012 #1

Ann Coulter said the same thing. Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #9

yet, didnt she vote twice? nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #17

good point Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #28

The angry white males are erik satie Oct 2012 #2

i think they are just as afraid as the wimmins will think for themselves, be independent seabeyond Oct 2012 #18

I think this is the kind of post you would highly object to, were the genders reversed. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #44

i think you would be wrong. i think history proves out my point. centuries of it. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #51

It's the exact kind of statement I suggest shouldnt be made in my #49 below stevenleser Oct 2012 #68

Let's echo that a thousand times. Zalatix Oct 2012 #83

Yeah it isn't the first time I'm embarressed by my gender... jimlup Oct 2012 #3

Electile Dysfunction H2O Man Oct 2012 #4

Is it erik satie Oct 2012 #5

pretty sure it is since underthematrix Oct 2012 #6

I think we're all mistaken erik satie Oct 2012 #8

This woman votes! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2012 #7

Ah, but isn't it refreshing that the DU men are smarter and open-minded? Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #10

Yes, I am proud of the Democratic men who are not swayed by...um... Quantess Oct 2012 #11

Can't understand it either. LisaL Oct 2012 #15

Someone should tell these men Politicalboi Oct 2012 #12

I know that we democrats should do some introspection about this. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #13

Answer: Fox News and Hate Radio n2doc Oct 2012 #16

Then what can we do to better counter these messages? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #22

What is alienating white men from the Dem party?...u ask marions ghost Oct 2012 #20

Exhibit #1 in the "we're too good for them" school of politics. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #21

Coal miners are lining up to see him? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #26

Bull marions ghost Oct 2012 #29

I love how you say "they" about 10 times here--without ever defining who exactly you are speaking! Romulox Oct 2012 #41

To clarify marions ghost Oct 2012 #71

Your post is a strawman assembly manual. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #72

No graph marions ghost Oct 2012 #73

White men have two choices. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #74

To be exact marions ghost Oct 2012 #78

Okay, let's accept that "misogynist" was some kind of tourettes/non sequitur outburst... lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #79

Ya fooled me...I thought for sure you were Not Sure marions ghost Oct 2012 #80

That's not much of a clarification. You revert back to "them" and "they" by your second paragraph. Romulox Oct 2012 #84

Whose side am I on? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #55

If a party 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #24

Uh oh marions ghost Oct 2012 #37

Kind of illustrates my point doesn't it? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #39

You didn't point out bigotry against men-- marions ghost Oct 2012 #42

Sorry, I guess I thought you'd figure that out on your own 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #45

Can't buy your comparison to begin with-- marions ghost Oct 2012 #52

Well I suppose if you can't address what I say 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #53

I addressed what you said marions ghost Oct 2012 #60

I suppose then it's too much to ask 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #61

OK Trying Tolerance--now yer talkin' Librulism there... marions ghost Oct 2012 #64

Anyone who made broad-slurs against women 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author marions ghost Oct 2012 #65

+1 n/t IL Lib Oct 2012 #25

Please don't insult Neanderthals. dawg Oct 2012 #31

You must be a librul marions ghost Oct 2012 #33

All the posts about pre-rapists (ie men) 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #23

Fuck the "men's rights" misogynists. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #35

The problem is that 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #40

... and their wives too. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #56

Well said. mathematic Oct 2012 #47

I would be interested to see the breakdwn by geography, or, say, religion. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #14

As has been said around here, bayareamike Oct 2012 #19

From this I conclude: Girl Rule. Boys Drool. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #27

White men are afraid of being in the same party as liberal women and gays. reformist2 Oct 2012 #30

Bingo marions ghost Oct 2012 #32

We need more people like Ed (Schultz) who can do outreach. reformist2 Oct 2012 #34

Ed Schultz --I think we should thank as much as K Olbermann marions ghost Oct 2012 #38

That's meeee! Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #48

Always liked your user name marions ghost Oct 2012 #54

Right. You get it. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #70

We are? Codeine Oct 2012 #82

Women are better at empathizing than we guys are. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #36

A lot of VERY angry posts to this thread. Not sure some of them are about politics, really. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #43

Politics often gets mixed with social issues marions ghost Oct 2012 #57

There's a gender gap in pot legalization too.. Upton Oct 2012 #46

The women against pot legalization are all video game widows. porphyrian Oct 2012 #50

I find this very interesting AngryAmish Oct 2012 #77

The question is "How to further rights for women and minorities without alienating the majority." stevenleser Oct 2012 #49

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #58

the other part - to me (as a white, straight guy).... NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #59

It's not really a macho thing, because most Hispanic and Black men vote Dem. reformist2 Oct 2012 #63

maybe that's it - I actually neither seek nor desire control! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #67

Part of it there is a gender gap how white males perceive the world SpartanDem Oct 2012 #62

+++++ marions ghost Oct 2012 #69

Are they calling young men? Our students? Are cell phone users included in polls? SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #75

I wish! We picked our last tomatoes the first week of August. disease/weather got them! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #76

And presents! If I ever move from our hateful read county to RDU SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #81