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Lone_Star_Dem

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43. Most are going to the polls and voting against the president.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 03:20 PM
Oct 2012

Some are not voting against their core beliefs, but the number is far lower than I originally expected.

The Sanatorium supporters in the primary are now backing Romney by a large majority. Of course that's just the ones I know. However, there's polling and real evidence showing Romney has more Evangelical support than McCain did in 2004.

A recent Pew Research poll showed that 74 percent of white evangelicals support Romney, a percentage point higher than Sen. John McCain when he was the Republican nominee.


From the same article:

The Romney-Ryan ticket is the first Republican presidential campaign in history without a Protestant candidate, but this hasn't deterred evangelicals from launching massive get-out-the-vote and registration efforts to help Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan win the White House.

Faith and Freedom Coalition founder Ralph Reed, who has been involved in pushing evangelicals to the polls since 1988, has launched what he described as the "largest voter registration, voter mobilization and get-out-the-vote effort ever targeted at evangelical voters," specifically those who would be new additions to the voter rolls.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/17/romney-evangelicals-vote/1637081/

Then there's this:

Influential pastor Billy Graham is signaling to evangelical Christians that they shouldn't hesitate to vote for Mitt Romney because of his Mormon religion, further cementing Romney's strong standing with the key Republican voting bloc.

The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association this week removed Mormonism from its list of religious cults, the Charlotte Observer reports. Mormons consider themselves Christians, though not all of their beliefs align with mainstream Christian doctrine.

The association dropped the label after Romney visited Graham and his son Franklin Graham, who now runs the organization, last week. In his six decades of ministry, Billy Graham has served as a spiritual adviser to several presidents, though he's never formally endorsed a presidential candidate.

Ken Barun, chief of staff for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, told the Observer in a statement, "We removed the (cult) information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign."


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57535071/billy-grahams-organization-removes-mormonism-from-its-list-of-cults/

And this:


Billy Graham buys election ads after Romney meeting

By Eric Marrapodi CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Washington (CNN) - The most famous and revered pastor in America, Billy Graham, is calling on voters to cast a ballot for their faith in full-page ads in the Wall Street Journal, USA Today and other newspapers.

Graham's picture appears prominently in the ads, next to copy that reads, "As I approach my 94th birthday, I realize this election could be my last."

It continues, "I believe it is vitally important that we cast our ballots for candidates who base their decisions on biblical principles and support the nation of Israel. I urge you to vote for those who protect the sanctity of life and support the biblical definition of marriage between a man and a woman. Vote for biblical values this November 6, and pray with me that America will remain one nation under God."


http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/18/billy-graham-buys-election-ads-after-romney-meeting/

And this:

TX church says 'vote for the Mormon, not the Muslim!'

LEAKEY, TX -

A small-town Texas church is causing a big-time controversy by putting up a sign that says: "Vote for the Mormon, not the Muslim! The capitalist, not the communist!"

"I can see why there's some controversy because some people think that the separation of church and state, maybe they shouldn't get involved in it," said a Leakey resident. "But I don't see no problem with them trying to send a message and wake some people up."



While many of these Evangelicals were told Mormons weren't Christians 'like them' in the past, which technically would be true due to the beliefs of Evangelicals. For many they don't really know why they weren't. It wasn't important to them in the grand scheme of their eternal salvation. The pastor said it, they knew they weren't supposed to believe what the Mormon missionaries said when they came to their door, so that's all that mattered. Now they're being told to support Romney rather than the president, since he's fundamentally Christian like them. Except he's not. Not according to several of the core tenets of their brand of religion. Yet these church leaders are over looking that to support Romney. Simply because he's not Obama.

There are quite a few Evangelicals out there who would not vote for Romney if they knew the depth of the differences between their two brands of religion. Which sadly, they don't.

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Secret Rituals - We haz them. [View all] MineralMan Oct 2012 OP
Full examination of people you hand the nuclear launch codes is normal prudence cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #1
Oh, it's good to know where people are coming from. MineralMan Oct 2012 #3
As an ex/reformed member of The Eagles I can now reveal the secret handshake and password. brewens Oct 2012 #2
Yup. I wasn't a Boy Scout, either, so I don't know their handshake. MineralMan Oct 2012 #4
I'm not drawn to secret rituals. reformist2 Oct 2012 #5
Nor am I. I don't like them, and find such MineralMan Oct 2012 #6
Bottom line, Mormonism is FAR from Christianity, both in beliefs and rituals. Barack_America Oct 2012 #7
I know a few Mormons and have done blood drives at their churches. I kind of wonder if for brewens Oct 2012 #8
Have you seen the "secret" video? Barack_America Oct 2012 #11
Yeah. Romney is high enough up that I'd say he's right in the middle brewens Oct 2012 #18
Bottom line: I'm an atheist. MineralMan Oct 2012 #12
But these particular rituals reinforce some nasty concepts - like gender inequality as one example riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #9
Yes, and the Roman Catholic Church also doesn't support gender equality, including MineralMan Oct 2012 #14
Biden isn't attempting to insert his religion into government policy Liberalynn Oct 2012 #21
Biden's a Democrat. I vote for Democrats. MineralMan Oct 2012 #24
I vote for Democrats too Liberalynn Oct 2012 #38
Biden has unequivocally stated he firmly believes in the seperation of church and state riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #42
I don''t see the rituals as a big deal. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #10
Well, for me, it's all poppycock and balderdash anyhow. MineralMan Oct 2012 #13
I'm also an athiest. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #15
With the exception, perhaps, of Franklin Pierce, all of MineralMan Oct 2012 #19
It's obvious we're talking past each other. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #40
While some will do that, there will be others who simply will not go to the polls MineralMan Oct 2012 #41
Most are going to the polls and voting against the president. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #43
If the Question could be asked of President Kennedy in the 1960's Liberalynn Oct 2012 #16
Ahh ha - the anticipated Ritual Blowoff of Willard's sTraNge MOrMOn ritual thinGy Berlum Oct 2012 #17
So drinking pigs blood is ok for anyone running for POTUS ....mmmm ok. L0oniX Oct 2012 #20
What religion requires drinking of pig blood? MineralMan Oct 2012 #22
You missed the idea. L0oniX Oct 2012 #28
You're trying to trivialize a real concern ProSense Oct 2012 #29
My question was not answered. What religion incorporates MineralMan Oct 2012 #32
I didn't make the point, but ProSense Oct 2012 #33
Also, you ProSense Oct 2012 #36
No, I'm not. Harry Reid is also a Mormon. MineralMan Oct 2012 #35
So? ProSense Oct 2012 #37
Wait, ProSense Oct 2012 #23
That is true. But, the thing being discussed is the release of those videos MineralMan Oct 2012 #27
But the others are not religious, and ProSense Oct 2012 #31
Rituals mean nothing until the cult or religion is in a position to do something about them.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #25
Romney should make everyone nervous. MineralMan Oct 2012 #34
As a woman, I am concerned about the implications of Romney's Skidmore Oct 2012 #26
I see Romney as a threat in very many ways. MineralMan Oct 2012 #30
Can we draw the line at "participating in a secret ritual older than the age of 14"? nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #39
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