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Magoo48

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80. I'm an a apocaloptimist.

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:58 PM

Nov 2021

I believe the world is going to tank, but in the very long run the planet will be fine. What form life will take is a mystery. There is tiny life living at depths of thousands of feet into the Earth’s crust. There is life miles and miles under the Sea. Whether any form of primate survives— who knows.

My point is, i will fight as best I can for the futures of my kids and grandkids. I will be dinged DU for heavy criticism heaped upon Dem greenwash, horseshit, and smokescreens. I will lose more friends for simply discussing climate science, oh well.

COP26 is a fucking circle-jerk. The real wisdom and solutions are outside with Greta, other young leaders and their army of young hearts. I’m with them until I cannot stand any longer. They are much better company.

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The Scientists Are Terrified [View all] Javaman Nov 2021 OP

Sad to say, climate calamities may force a large chunk of humanity calimary Nov 2021 #1

Even if the climate turns into a major killer... Silent3 Nov 2021 #4

The other half will be blamed on the usual suspects of history... Moostache Nov 2021 #12

but the irony is, if they kill off the poor, who will jump to their whims? Javaman Nov 2021 #25

They believe that AI bots will replace wnylib Nov 2021 #58

Counting on Skynet is their last mistake. ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #69

And who will buy their cheap imported junk? Permanut Nov 2021 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Nov 2021 #19

and the rich llashram Nov 2021 #29

In the binary sense of total extinction vs. any level (however meager) of non-extinction... Silent3 Nov 2021 #30

tipping point(s) llashram Nov 2021 #31

Even if we're at a tipping point in climate, and major warming occurs... Silent3 Nov 2021 #35

I hope you're right but llashram Nov 2021 #36

Operative words for Mars 2.0 ...time, money and effort paleotn Nov 2021 #38

you see the irony of what your saying right? Javaman Nov 2021 #43

Developing Mars is for a different kind of survival goal Silent3 Nov 2021 #48

In the long run most earth species don't survive. More than 99.9% are extinct. hunter Nov 2021 #81

Inhabitable? HuskyOffset Nov 2021 #78

Humans are like rabbits in Australia. roamer65 Nov 2021 #51

A big, fat K&R!♥ CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2021 #2

K & R - nt Ohio Joe Nov 2021 #3

Yes, and our conservative Supreme Court is going to decide if the government can regulate ... Jim__ Nov 2021 #5

I've told my kids don't have kids and we're sorry for what you'll be dealing with in your lifetime. Bluethroughu Nov 2021 #6

I get it, but OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2021 #62

I understand, but the weight of global warming on our childrens' Bluethroughu Nov 2021 #75

Maybe the Stupids are winning. Not conducive to natural selection for humans. triron Nov 2021 #7

the stupids will die via natural selection. Javaman Nov 2021 #9

But stupids often take non-stupids with them Ohioboy Nov 2021 #27

Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Nov 2021 #8

Sorry, But I Just Don't Care Anymore SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #10

I'm 58 and I fully expect the shit to hit the fan before I shed my mortal coil. Javaman Nov 2021 #11

Feels Like The Angrier I Get, The Less Is Done To Change Things SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #13

I know what you mean Javaman Nov 2021 #21

I think I'll adopt your mantra... llmart Nov 2021 #41

+1😀 Javaman Nov 2021 #72

I feel much the same. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2021 #39

I just hit 50 this year, I am 100% sure the worst will start in my lifetime. Moostache Nov 2021 #16

Yes. roamer65 Nov 2021 #52

54 and I agree. 2030ish through 2070 will be the transition to BIG fire, flood, war, famine, world. JanMichael Nov 2021 #53

I can't control others but I am spending much time preparing to adapt to what's coming. Kaleva Nov 2021 #14

Probably A Wise Idea SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #15

I bring this up from time to time but some friends that I have had a child and they were Javaman Nov 2021 #22

I've been learning new things. Kaleva Nov 2021 #59

I'm starting to feel that way myself Raine Nov 2021 #26

Same here. roamer65 Nov 2021 #49

I'm older with kids, and parents have passed, but I'm not disagreeing with anything in your post. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #65

The climate is changing and I fear we will do nothing. The part no one wants to talk about is: The Jungle 1 Nov 2021 #17

...and there will be areas that attempt to stop them. roamer65 Nov 2021 #50

You'll see massive movement of people right here in this country. Kaleva Nov 2021 #60

Wealthy capitalists LOVE the Prisoner's Dilemma game b/c they can influence the outcome NullTuples Nov 2021 #18

as said by gretta thornburg, we had 50 years or more to clean up our act but, AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Nov 2021 #23

I live in the little town of Issaquah, WA (Costco's World HQ) in the foothills of the Cascade Mtns OMGWTF Nov 2021 #24

Joe Manchin's owner-donors -- they're poster child for what's wrong. joe manchin's their tool. ancianita Nov 2021 #28

While I would love to throw all the blame on Manchin, he could not do what he is doing rurallib Nov 2021 #32

I think we're doomed bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #33

I'm an a apocaloptimist. Magoo48 Nov 2021 #80

Yep I trust the scientists FakeNoose Nov 2021 #34

A bunch of lichen growing on bare rocks . . . Aussie105 Nov 2021 #37

Why won't the wealthy/powerful stop climate change? Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #40

I think they originally believed that the worst of it will not happen in their lifetimes. totodeinhere Nov 2021 #55

And they think their offspring can evade climate change because they are rich. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #57

K&R! Good article! burrowowl Nov 2021 #42

There were plenty of people who saw this coming years ago - no one listened. waterwatcher123 Nov 2021 #44

Once upon time, when there was a real educational system in this country... Javaman Nov 2021 #45

From June of 2017 Dystopian Optimist Nov 2021 #46

I expect suicide rates to go near exponential over the next 20 years. roamer65 Nov 2021 #47

I hate to say it, but that conference in Scotland was just words. Just like the climate conference totodeinhere Nov 2021 #54

What I find darkly amusing about that conference is Javaman Nov 2021 #73

They're not the only ones who are terrified. calimary Nov 2021 #56

Oh, they've been "terrified" since the 1970's NullTuples Nov 2021 #61

And 30 years of spewage from Presidential Medal of Freedom winner: Rush Limbaugh. No RIP. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #63

I just heard a report saying that we just have to start thinking how to live with climate change. Kablooie Nov 2021 #64

Some of us here have been talking about adapting for a couple of years now. Kaleva Nov 2021 #71

Club of Rome report was pooh-poohed in the early 1970s bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #66

STOP GLOBAL WHINING bumper stickers were hilarious? czarjak Nov 2021 #67

If one thinks that it's just Joe Manchin, George Bush, or all the demons, they should think... NNadir Nov 2021 #68

Never forget, people are made of meat. hunter Nov 2021 #74

The Scientists Are Terrified nelsonarcherdd31 Nov 2021 #76

So what do you think of it? BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #77

Manchin did what a coal baron would do, 2Gingersnaps Nov 2021 #79

one of them, for sure llashram Nov 2021 #82