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maxsolomon

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4. Murray is my Senator, but man, do I disagree.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:00 PM

Nov 2021

Sometimes I think I'm the only one left who understands WHY there is DST and Not-DST. It's particularly pronounced at 47 degrees latitude where I live.

We have DST because it puts the daylight when we can use it best. December has just over 8 hours of daylight per day. June has around 16.

Non-DST means the sun comes up BEFORE 8 am in December. Kids go to school before 8, and construction crews (and farmers I guess) start work at 7 am, when there's at least twilight. On Permanent DST, the sun would come up around 9 am.

During DST, the sun still comes up before 6 am in June. I'd rather it went down after 9 pm than coming up at fucking 5 am. No one needs daylight before 6 am.

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WA Senator Patty Murray Renews Push For Permanent Daylight Saving Time [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 OP

A refreshing break from paid leave, Rx costs, voting rights, etc leftstreet Nov 2021 #1

So true. Lol jimfields33 Nov 2021 #2

Settle on the half hour and be done with it . . . Journeyman Nov 2021 #3

I totally agree gblady Nov 2021 #19

That's actually a pretty good compromise. Or stick with DST and have schools etc. Quixote1818 Nov 2021 #21

I'd support schools starting later if we go to year around DST! pazzyanne Nov 2021 #26

THAT is what I've always thought would be a perfect Raine Nov 2021 #62

Murray is my Senator, but man, do I disagree. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #4

Permanent Daylight Saving Time we can do it Nov 2021 #6

? what are you telling me? maxsolomon Nov 2021 #7

Perfectly comprehensible. nilram Nov 2021 #9

The past few weeks, the sun already isn't coming up until after 7:30 frazzled Nov 2021 #10

More of a North-South division. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #64

Just have schools etc. start an hour later for Non- DST. Many already do start at 9am. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2021 #20

Exactly. I also disagree with Murray. Owl Nov 2021 #32

Sign me up. we can do it Nov 2021 #5

Set it one way or the other, permanently. I'd prefer sun later but I am not a farmer or dutch777 Nov 2021 #8

move it to the 1/2 hour in between and leave it rurallib Nov 2021 #11

yes please! jcgoldie Nov 2021 #12

Set it to one and be done. Xolodno Nov 2021 #13

"... research shows this is good for public health..." Disaffected Nov 2021 #14

I'm with you nt drmeow Nov 2021 #17

Eastern New York and New England should be in the Atlantic Time Zone. roamer65 Nov 2021 #15

? Is that like where Puerto Rico is. I think I was surprised when I visited. electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #57

We so need perm DST here in Sweden. Even here un Stockholm, far from the northern parts, the sun Celerity Nov 2021 #16

Arizona is on permanent standard time. former9thward Nov 2021 #18

Except for the problems and irritation when various apps marybourg Nov 2021 #52

I'm in favor of don't change the time. Pick a time and stay with it. Liberal In Texas Nov 2021 #22

I would love to be on Dayloght Saving time all year. Raftergirl Nov 2021 #23

i'm not a fan.. I enjoy the early darkness of winter time samnsara Nov 2021 #24

if a difference of one hour makes you depressed Skittles Nov 2021 #25

I wish I could rec your post a thousand times! TurboDem Nov 2021 #27

I get so tired of the twice yearly whining from people Skittles Nov 2021 #39

+1 leftstreet Nov 2021 #29

There are many people who have trouble with seasonal time changes. pazzyanne Nov 2021 #30

there are thousands of night shift workers Skittles Nov 2021 #38

Thanks for reading the circadian information? nt pazzyanne Nov 2021 #40

ONE HOUR Skittles Nov 2021 #41

That's the thing - "strongly influenced by environmental cues like changes in light" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #53

The cycle of light related depression is not personality based. Seasonal affective disorder (SAD) Ford_Prefect Nov 2021 #34

+ 1 nt pazzyanne Nov 2021 #42

I can understand if you're deprived for days of sunlight Skittles Nov 2021 #43

You might want to consider a bit of research on your own... Ford_Prefect Nov 2021 #48

I'm saying if it affects you badly Skittles Nov 2021 #49

Are you suggesting that the science underlying the Mayo Clinic's information on SAD is not accurate? Ford_Prefect Nov 2021 #51

Both of you are ignorant on this matter. Read the darn studies! electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #55

Changing the time has never really bothered me dflprincess Nov 2021 #28

No, no, a thousand times no Silver Swan Nov 2021 #31

You hate it in the Summer too? Polybius Nov 2021 #37

Yes! Yes they are. 🥰 electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #54

You would not like the sun starting to fade out before 2 pm Celerity Nov 2021 #47

I understand! I have a long time acquaintance in Finland... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #58

Stockholm is only a wee bit south of Anchorage, Alaska. We just are far warmer Celerity Nov 2021 #60

I thought you might have been talking about th sun set... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #61

Permanent GMT, world wide bello Nov 2021 #33

If the Earth was flat, we'd only need one Time Zone Polybius Nov 2021 #36

Yeah no thanks Polybius Nov 2021 #35

I just wish we didn't have to hear the whining about it twice a year Skittles Nov 2021 #44

Every Spring I post "Happy Daylight Savings Time" Polybius Nov 2021 #45

it is proof how delicate human beings are Skittles Nov 2021 #46

And I'M Tired of Your Arrogance, and Ignorance! electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #59

I'm really sick of early risers canetoad Nov 2021 #50

DSL! DSL! DSL! DSL! 🤔 I would consider the 1/2 hr compromise. electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #56

AZ doesn't do Daylight Savings, and a large majority Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #63

Phoenix is at 33 degrees N maxsolomon Nov 2021 #65