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In reply to the discussion: 50 years ago today. President Kennedy tells the nation about the missiles in Cuba... [View all]nichomachus
(12,754 posts)20. A 50-year-old myth
At the time they made the announcement and declared it an "eyeball-to-eyeball" confrontation, the boat carrying the missiles was 750 miles away from Cuba and headed back toward the Soviet Union. From Michael Dobbs:
While researching a 2008 book on the missile crisis, I plotted the positions of Soviet and American ships during this period, on the basis of United States intelligence records. I was stunned to discover that the lead Soviet ship, the Kimovsk, was actually 750 miles away from the blockade line, heading back toward the Soviet Union, at the time of the supposed eyeball to eyeball incident. Acting to avert a naval showdown, the Soviet premier, Nikita S. Khrushchev, had turned his missile-carrying freighters around some 30 hours earlier.
Kennedy was certainly bracing for an eyeball to eyeball moment, but it never happened. There is now plenty of evidence that Kennedy like Khrushchev was a lot less steely-eyed than depicted in the initial accounts of the crisis, which were virtually dictated by the White House. Tape-recorded transcripts of White House debates and notes from participants show that Kennedy was prepared to make significant concessions, including a public trade of Soviet missiles in Cuba for American missiles in Turkey and possibly the surrender of the United States naval base at Guantánamo Bay.
While the risk of war in October 1962 was very high (Kennedy estimated it variously at between 1 in 5 and 1 in 2), it was not caused by a clash of wills. The real dangers arose from the fog of war. As the two superpowers geared up for a nuclear war, the chances of something going terribly wrong increased exponentially. To their credit, both Kennedy and Khrushchev understood this dynamic, which became particularly evident on the most nerve-racking day of all, Black Saturday.
By Saturday, Oct. 27, the two leaders were no longer in full control of their gigantic military machines, which were moving forward under their own momentum. Soviet troops on Cuba targeted Guantánamo with tactical nuclear weapons and shot down an American U-2 spy plane. Another U-2, on a routine air sampling mission to the North Pole, got lost over the Soviet Union. The Soviets sent MiG fighters into the air to try to shoot down the American intruder, and in response, Alaska Air Defense Command scrambled F-102 interceptors armed with tactical nuclear missiles. In the Caribbean, a frazzled Soviet submarine commander was dissuaded by his subordinates from using his nuclear torpedo against American destroyers that were trying to force him to the surface.
A 50-year-old myth
But it makes a great story.
I was in college at the time. ROTC was required of all undergraduates (it was an all-male school) and we had a large advanced ROTC corps.
Some joker got hold of the ROTC stationary and cut imaginary orders for each advanced ROTC student to report for immediate military service to prepare for an invasion of Cuba. Hilarity ensued.
One guy was ready to go, packed his uniform and his .22 rifle in a suitcase and was waiting for others to get ready. Another guy was on the phone to his lawyer. Other guys were walking around bumping into walls. They never found out who did it.
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