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ShazamIam

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18. Rural U.S. men are convinced the Democratic are going to take their guns, they stopped voting when

Sun Nov 7, 2021, 10:01 AM

Nov 2021

The Democratic made gun control, which had until the early 80s had been a liberal position, the right to own a gun. Old Republicans were opposed to gun rights. When the NRA and the political Christians were given the big voice in the Republican party. to form a coalition that turned rural America red.

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Why can't Democrats win in rural areas? [View all] Cyrano Nov 2021 OP

Much of rural America has turned into news deserts over the past few decades bearsfootball516 Nov 2021 #1

& Fox on steroids, aka social media with its RW favouring algorithms, plus RW white wing hate radio Celerity Nov 2021 #4

And AM talk radio Bettie Nov 2021 #30

yep. and RW radio makes fox possible. the answer to the question is Republican talk radio certainot Nov 2021 #65

Yep Bettie Nov 2021 #93

Spot on. Yet whenever anyone mentions the RW saturation AM radio... JHB Nov 2021 #106

The radio stream of propaganda is real - but BlueIdaho Nov 2021 #51

The problem is our U.S.A. Constitution. hunter Nov 2021 #114

That's why republicans are so set-against expanding broadband internet to rural areas.... George II Nov 2021 #57

But they have "evangeliKKKal" radio 24/7 and fox Hulk Nov 2021 #64

Whoever said "The truth will set you free" was mistaken. Cyrano Nov 2021 #88

Jesus said that Sur Zobra Nov 2021 #135

Of Alabama's four largest cities, only one has a daily newspaper misanthrope Nov 2021 #129

The goal is NOT to win in the suburbs... brooklynite Nov 2021 #2

:) Depends on the suburbs and office. But good strategic points Hortensis Nov 2021 #25

Sad that when they win in urban areas they refuse to vote for legislation directed to urban areas. George II Nov 2021 #60

Mostly white people . Even Large numbers of white people outside rural areas vote Republican JI7 Nov 2021 #3

Large swaths of the rural South are majority Black. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #7

The places we lose are largely white . There are some exceptions like Oregon and Vermont JI7 Nov 2021 #13

Then talking about "losing rural areas" without including the race component isn't helpful. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #17

we only win Oregon because of Portland and its suburbs dsc Nov 2021 #19

Same is true of Washington State. BlueIdaho Nov 2021 #43

Same is true of pretty much every blue state jmowreader Nov 2021 #136

Common in the midwest too Withywindle Nov 2021 #137

Vermont is a mystery to me. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #124

Education and income are big drivers! Mopar151 Nov 2021 #132

Not that I know..I'm in Texas LeftInTX Nov 2021 #77

Rural areas have lost population, but they have diversified. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #81

Thanks...very interesting...will read later.. LeftInTX Nov 2021 #84

And they have hate radio 24/7 mcar Nov 2021 #5

Exactly. Much larger impact than Fox News IMO. 24/7 brainwashing, highplainsdem Nov 2021 #9

A lot of the radio hosts... 2naSalit Nov 2021 #34

I live in a rural area that kept reelecting Democrats because Democrats spelled out exactly WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #6

Absolutely this. It's all in the messaging! RobertDevereaux Nov 2021 #8

PURE AND SIMPLE....RACISM Nokillmessanger Nov 2021 #15

Sigh. Not very surprised for either reason. electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #111

Well good for you.. what rural area do you live in? mountain grammy Nov 2021 #53

Targeting is important LeftInTX Nov 2021 #87

Do you live in a rural republican area? mountain grammy Nov 2021 #99

I live in a suburban Republican area, but we have data... LeftInTX Nov 2021 #115

I moved from Texas to CO in 1984 mountain grammy Nov 2021 #121

It depends on the rural area. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #127

I know there are exceptions mountain grammy Nov 2021 #139

I completely understand what you're saying. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #143

Thank you, I needed that.. mountain grammy Nov 2021 #144

Awesome!! LeftInTX Nov 2021 #85

Do you mind sharing the demographics of your area? Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #126

Messaging and financial fairness. Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #10

Young people have moved out of rural hellholes a long time ago wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #11

"Brain drain" is real. hunter Nov 2021 #62

Good post Cyrano Nov 2021 #94

#1 race #2 guns. nt doc03 Nov 2021 #12

Agreed NickB79 Nov 2021 #22

Yep.. mountain grammy Nov 2021 #54

#3 God paleotn Nov 2021 #101

Rural and mostly white areas of the NE USA are liberal. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #14

I don't think the evangelicals Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #128

People with water wells and septic systems consider themselves independent and self reliant Klaralven Nov 2021 #16

This anti-tax, anti-regulation, anti-trade, anti-government policy benefits big corporations... hunter Nov 2021 #100

Big corps park profits offshore, have fleets of lawyers to deal with regs, move operations abroad Klaralven Nov 2021 #105

The big guys ought to be able to "cope" as they usually have a hand in writing the regulations. hunter Nov 2021 #110

Rural U.S. men are convinced the Democratic are going to take their guns, they stopped voting when ShazamIam Nov 2021 #18

They supported Carter, an actual evangelical Christian... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #24

Carter didn't run on an anti-gun policy agenda. ShazamIam Nov 2021 #35

I never said that he did. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #49

Nor did I claim that you did. My point was about the Republicans taking up guns + religion ShazamIam Nov 2021 #61

You might be correct about the gun issues later. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #70

Yeah, the gun issue is weird... LeftInTX Nov 2021 #91

I love Jimmy, but he also used some racist campaign practices SYFROYH Nov 2021 #76

I just found some examples of it... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #82

Politics can be ugly SYFROYH Nov 2021 #83

This is the sixth paragraph of his Jan. 12, 1971 governor's inaugural address misanthrope Nov 2021 #130

Carter won that election 45 years ago. Mariana Nov 2021 #146

WI has an evangelical hold in rural are. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #20

Rural America see's Democrats as coastal elites who make fun of country folks... honest.abe Nov 2021 #21

They thought Trump was qualified to be POTUS and voted for him in droves. Twice. BlueStater Nov 2021 #133

Hate radio, uneducated white people, evangelical churches. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #23

Not only are rural people less well educated, vlyons Nov 2021 #26

The less well traveled also have no concept that the US is not the most exceptional country. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #66

30+ years of fox news and right-wing talk radio. AJT Nov 2021 #27

I live in rural PA close to the Ohio border. appleannie1 Nov 2021 #28

good pont about gerrymandering mrsadm Nov 2021 #48

I live right on the other side of the border from Sharon. JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #63

I saw that working the polls when trump won appleannie1 Nov 2021 #117

Is this a 2022 District? or is it a 2011-2020 District? LeftInTX Nov 2021 #95

They redid the districts here about 10 years ago. It is why Rep. Dahlkemper only served two years. appleannie1 Nov 2021 #118

Why Bother Appealing modrepub Nov 2021 #29

They have disproportionate control of the U.S. Senate Sympthsical Nov 2021 #42

+1 leftstreet Nov 2021 #52

Not Listening modrepub Nov 2021 #122

Style of campaigning matters too. Qutzupalotl Nov 2021 #31

As an example, take the minimum wage debate. Qutzupalotl Nov 2021 #38

Having had a small farm, most like to keep things simple, more relaxed and less strenuous TheBlackAdder Nov 2021 #32

+1 2naSalit Nov 2021 #37

so much for the bullshit about how friendly rural folk are Skittles Nov 2021 #134

Local TV stations, newspapers owned by far right. Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #33

Clinton let the Fairness Doctrine disappear, and this shit is the result bringthePaine Nov 2021 #36

I always thought GWB was responsible for killing the fairness doctrine. Meadowoak Nov 2021 #86

It was Reagan LeftInTX Nov 2021 #96

Clinton wasn't President in 1987 tenderfoot Nov 2021 #108

Hate radio, fox, generations of racism, peer pressure. "Yer with us or yer agin us." Had someone Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #39

They drive pickups, drink beer, and shoot animals (hunt) mrsadm Nov 2021 #40

"This is more cultural that's at play and identity politics that's at play than economic policies," gulliver Nov 2021 #41

As I have heard my wife say ( many times ) twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #44

I also live in deep red PA TheDemsshouldhireme Nov 2021 #45

agreed that guns is a probably the single biggest reason (I'm also in red PA) Amishman Nov 2021 #131

I know quite a few as well. LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #141

Quit blaming rural voters Wild blueberry Nov 2021 #46

Thank you. KentuckyWoman Nov 2021 #113

Their circles of influence are so much smaller. world wide wally Nov 2021 #47

Unfortunately, RW Radio controls their mind ... aggiesal Nov 2021 #50

My Brother-In-Law is a like minded farmer. JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #55

Rurals have reinforcing genealogy, religious, business networks hyped with social media bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #56

"Hey rural America... LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #58

I'm in a rural area visiting my daughter ismnotwasm Nov 2021 #59

I live in Ohio. SamKnause Nov 2021 #67

Couldn't Agree more, same here is PA TheDemsshouldhireme Nov 2021 #71

Thanks. SamKnause Nov 2021 #73

It costs $$$ to have a physical HQ... LeftInTX Nov 2021 #97

I think a lot of democrats don't want to waste Tree Lady Nov 2021 #112

I live in a rural area... orwell Nov 2021 #68

I wonder if part of the answer might be to design ads that speak to at least some of these karynnj Nov 2021 #69

I think Democrats and "socialists" like Sanders... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #90

We may not like it but rural voters live mostly in Progressive dog Nov 2021 #72

Back In THe 1960's The Most Liberal Senators Were From States Like DallasNE Nov 2021 #74

That's a complicated question, actually. MineralMan Nov 2021 #75

Rural voters tend to vote based on values rather than economics Poiuyt Nov 2021 #78

The same reason Republicans don't win the inner city vote Polybius Nov 2021 #79

Maybe less broadband availability Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #104

Democrats are labeled for raising taxes. RicROC Nov 2021 #80

I agree with many of the ideas above. cilla4progress Nov 2021 #89

This is a good article. . . . h2ebits Nov 2021 #92

I don't think we reach out to them. I remember when Bernie went to West Virginia and Kentucky? ratchiweenie Nov 2021 #98

IMO it started long ago moondust Nov 2021 #102

Rep. controlled media. Brainfodder Nov 2021 #103

Just 25% of the vote Trump got in MI came from counties considered rural or mostly rural. Kaleva Nov 2021 #107

Rural areas don't need government forthemiddle Nov 2021 #109

Much of rural U.S.A. would look like a third world nation... hunter Nov 2021 #145

Frankly they're dumb as fck, filthy disease-spreading covidiots that are horrible to be around traitorsgalore Nov 2021 #116

I too am sick of being told I need to "understand" these folk Skittles Nov 2021 #125

+1. They're goddamn hypocrites dalton99a Nov 2021 #140

I have lived city, suburb and rural Skittles Nov 2021 #147

God and guns budkin Nov 2021 #119

Because we don't live there. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2021 #120

My sister just finished writing a white paper not long ago misanthrope Nov 2021 #123

Vicious cycle of peer pressure, Fascist radio, illiteracy/semi-literacy, Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #138

Small town America has been decimated by manufacturing falling Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #142

I live in the largest county in the lower 48 and it is red ripcord Nov 2021 #148