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1) Rittenhouse did not bring a gun across state lines
2) "not being threatened" is a matter of perspective, and the facts show otherwise (see below)
3) yes, he did have "business there" (again, see below)
I'm not TRYING to be contrary, and I don't disagree on the mood of the subject. 2 people are dead because he wanted to play cowboy, and that is absolutely disgusting. But, we should argue facts, not false information, that does us no good.
Many of us live in either a rural area, or small town, and "our community" can span a 30 mile radius as a result, just like Rittenhouse. Most of Rittenhouse family lives in Kenosha, which is about 15 minutes away from where he lives, so he had good reasons to be there. The rifle in question was purchased and stored in WI, undisputed facts. I've heard SO much incorrect information about this case, it's kind of making my head swirl.
However, even though he generally had every right to be in Kenosha, and every good reasons, that's not at all why he was there on this particular night. He was there to insert himself into a a very unstable and dangerous environment as opposition, and he brought a gun when he did it. If he didn't think it was dangerous, he wouldn't have brought a gun. If he DID think it was dangerous, he should have stayed home and watched cartoons or polished his Trump hats or something. I think his response was disproportional in all but one case (guy with the pistol pointed at him who got his arm shot up). I see one case of actual self-defense, and 2 cases of something lesser than murder, whatever that is. You don't respond to a swinging skateboard with a gunfire, you don't respond to someone chasing you and throwing a plastic bag at you with gunfire. If someone is pointing a pistol at you, THAT justifies pulling the trigger (shot in the arm guy who didn't get killed).
I'm not sure under WI law what he can be guilty of, but I don't believe it's murder. I don't know how they define all the sub-sets there.
And yes, I believe he carries the weight of some responsibility here, a lot of it in fact. There would be no dead people had he just stayed home that night.