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muriel_volestrangler

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58. It's not the article that's bad, it's your "legally/practically" attitude

Wed Nov 17, 2021, 09:42 AM

Nov 2021

which smacks of "we in the party establishment know what's best, not these inconvenient Democratic voters".

What I've seen of DeBoer struck me more as left libertarian than progressive.

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Democratic Socialists Need to Take a Hard Look in the Mirror [View all] brooklynite Nov 2021 OP

A key question: Do people who oppose Democratic Socialist beliefs even know what they are? n/t TygrBright Nov 2021 #1

NO Bev54 Nov 2021 #15

Probably not... and not enough people pay enough attention to care In It to Win It Nov 2021 #25

I do, researched extensively long ago, which is why I realize Hortensis Nov 2021 #51

Who is the author? Paywall question everything Nov 2021 #2

By Fredrik deBoer elleng Nov 2021 #6

Thanks question everything Nov 2021 #16

The author's name is Fredrik deBoer DinahMoeHum Nov 2021 #23

The answer is not to change our progressive beliefs PTWB Nov 2021 #3

Even if that means losing? mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #5

We are losing either way. PTWB Nov 2021 #7

"Remember when ..." mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #10

How old are you? PTWB Nov 2021 #11

Retirement age. I can't recall leftists being active in their support of equal marriage rights. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #12

My goodness. That's certainly a "unique" perspective! 😂 PTWB Nov 2021 #13

There are a lot of old people at DU. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #14

I remember the early Obama years AZProgressive Nov 2021 #46

No if we elect moderate Democrats and hold Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #28

The first national candidate Sgent Nov 2021 #39

He joined the ranks of such wild-haired commies as Barry Goldwater. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #53

And lose elections? You need to convince others Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #26

How is Walton considered a "Democratic Socialist?" leftstreet Nov 2021 #4

She called herself a Democratic Socialist. nt iemanja Nov 2021 #8

And that right there is the death knell Poiuyt Nov 2021 #59

Except WHITT Nov 2021 #9

But as he said, the Democrats did choose her - it was a rogue Democrat and Republicans muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #17

In a legal sense, the Democratic Party chose her, as she got the most votes... brooklynite Nov 2021 #43

Hah-hah! muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #48

The point is that her nomination didn't indicate support for her DS polices by the electorate... brooklynite Nov 2021 #54

No, the point is you are suggesting that your people should ignore votes when they disagree with you muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #55

No, that's not the point of THIS article... brooklynite Nov 2021 #56

It's not the article that's bad, it's your "legally/practically" attitude muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #58

It's not rocket science. The "socialist" label is toxic. And I take... brush Nov 2021 #18

👆Absolutely true. We've got to accept the reality of the voters' biases Walleye Nov 2021 #19

I would be reluctant to vote for anyone who self-identified as a socialist. comradebillyboy Nov 2021 #20

I'm so with you on this. brush Nov 2021 #24

''Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail. Without it, nothing can empedocles Nov 2021 #34

They are plain old social democrats, trying to cosplay a false definition Celerity Nov 2021 #30

Social Democracy policies New Deal Economics +Democracy. haele Nov 2021 #31

Exactly, your last Cha Nov 2021 #32

Shontel Brown seems to be a proud Democrat mcar Nov 2021 #38

You Got It.. Shontel Cha Nov 2021 #40

I have a problem with Corporate Democrats. multigraincracker Nov 2021 #35

"Every four years, the Gallup poll asks Americans, 'If your party nominated a generally betsuni Nov 2021 #33

Complete strawman, BUT only possible because of the hubris and arrogance so Celerity Nov 2021 #21

Reading that made my teeth hurt. OilemFirchen Nov 2021 #41

I'd like to know what "moderate left neoliberalism" is, too. betsuni Nov 2021 #42

"Establishment" certainly rolls off the tongue more easily. OilemFirchen Nov 2021 #45

"The Man" should totally make a come back. betsuni Nov 2021 #52

Perhaps a dental visit is in order. Democrats, neoliberalism, and the Third Way Celerity Nov 2021 #49

No. betsuni Nov 2021 #50

That's it? OilemFirchen Nov 2021 #61

You are simply wrong. Celerity Nov 2021 #64

That's pathetic. OilemFirchen Nov 2021 #68

In circumstances like these iemanja Nov 2021 #65

Nope. Wrong, and I already gave a more than detailed enough explanation. nt Celerity Nov 2021 #66

For starters they can stop whining like a republican when they lose, cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #22

+1 iemanja Nov 2021 #72

Many of the policies supported by the DSA are popular with a majority of Americans Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #27

It is still toxic... sadly. You have to separate Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #29

I remember Joe Biden clearly rejecting single-payer healthcare and wealth taxes... brooklynite Nov 2021 #36

And yet, a wealth tax is proposed for the BBB, as is Medicare expansion. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #37

Medicare is not socialism... brooklynite Nov 2021 #44

I try to avoid infighting AZProgressive Nov 2021 #47

You're saying that Terry McAuliffe didn't have enough money? brooklynite Nov 2021 #57

Nina Turner lost in the primary iemanja Nov 2021 #63

She was ahead in the polls in June AZProgressive Nov 2021 #67

Turner outraised her opponent iemanja Nov 2021 #69

I was one of Turner's donors AZProgressive Nov 2021 #70

Here is the breakdown of campaign funds iemanja Nov 2021 #71

There does seem to be an entitlement attitude treestar Nov 2021 #60

If people want to run as socialists iemanja Nov 2021 #62