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Dave says

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26. 10,000 households hit the 91% bracket in 1950
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:16 AM
Nov 2021

I agree with all your points except the “hardly” one.

While 10,000 can be thought of as “hardly”, it is (to me) about economic justice.

https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-on-the-rich-1950s-not-high/

I am of course talking about marginal rates, “tax brackets”. Adjusted for inflation, income above $4 million is taxed at that level. We have far more people making over $4 million today than $200,000 (in 1950 dollars) then. There are far more dollars exposed now to the top bracket. Taxing them with a 90% bracket will proportionally bring in more dollars than it did in 1950.

Overall (including federal, state, and local income taxes) the top 1% pay about 6% less in taxes than they did between 1950 to 1959. For me, for economic justice, that 6% belongs in the coffers of tax collectors.

As for the idea that it is easy for the rich to avoid taxes, it isn’t easy. That’s why they pay so much to tax lawyers and accountants to help them. I’m ok with that effort. The lawyers and accountants likely end up spending more of their income on goods and services than the rich who already have everything. Value is created every time dollars change hands. Push that income down the income ladder and more wealth (for all) is created. It’s about velocity of cash flow. When stuffed in the pockets of the wealthy, that velocity slows down.

But getting back to your other good points, I’d throw a progressive wealth tax into the mix.


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I would set a threshold at wherever the top 1% falls and no deductions over that Amishman Nov 2021 #1
Even 30% would raise a fortune. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #2
A 45% effective rate. iemanja Nov 2021 #3
I was just about to post 50% Dave says Nov 2021 #29
70% for the first 5 years. Ka-Dinh Oy Nov 2021 #4
91% like under Eisenhower tenderfoot Nov 2021 #5
Nobody Paid 91% ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #8
10,000 households hit the 91% bracket in 1950 Dave says Nov 2021 #26
Fair Point ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #27
Force cap gains/losses to be realized annually, bump cap rate to 40%, set min eff. rate at 40% LonePirate Nov 2021 #6
90% marginal rate Dave says Nov 2021 #7
See Post 8 ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #9
Since taxes are progressive based on the different brackets it's perfectly Nanjeanne Nov 2021 #10
What I pay newdayneeded Nov 2021 #11
Not exactly on point, but I read once that pollsters found that one of the EarnestPutz Nov 2021 #12
51% and progressively greater beyond that. hunter Nov 2021 #13
35% Skittles Nov 2021 #14
Another source of taxation newdayneeded Nov 2021 #15
50% rate for over $1 million mvd Nov 2021 #16
How do you make corporations pay taxes that aren't passed down to the consumers? marie999 Nov 2021 #28
Some of the current Democratic ideas are a start mvd Nov 2021 #32
90% and we'll take 40 years to work our way down from that. Bluethroughu Nov 2021 #17
50% top status bracket. IbogaProject Nov 2021 #18
Treat all income the same Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #19
Ding ding ding, we have a winner! LastDemocratInSC Nov 2021 #20
The inverse of this: meadowlander Nov 2021 #21
yes IbogaProject Nov 2021 #31
I'd say a minimum rate of 40% over $1m NowISeetheLight Nov 2021 #22
Whatever they were paying in Eisenhower's administration Hekate Nov 2021 #23
This was the go to tax site in the 80s and early 00s Buzz cook Nov 2021 #24
A fair share requires the rich to feel a need to cut elsewhere, as is common at lower incomes sanatanadharma Nov 2021 #25
Fixating on a specific rate is the wrong approach Hav Nov 2021 #30
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