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MineralMan

(150,509 posts)
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 11:31 AM Nov 2021

I Would Vote for AOC and I Would Vote for Joe Manchin. [View all]

Shocking? Not at all.

I think AOC is a disruptive force in the House and Joe Manchin is too conservative in the Senate. Here's the thing: If I lived in AOC's district, I'd vote for her in a NY minute in any November if she were on the ballot. If I lived in West Virginia, I'd vote for Joe Manchin if he were on the general election ballot. I'm a Democrat, and I know that no Republican will be on my side about any damned thing at all.

But, I don't live in either place, so I won't vote for either of them. I can't. Unless you live in their districts or states, neither can you.

As a lifelong Democrat, I vote in primary races for the candidate who best matches my positions on things. Then, in November, I vote for whichever Democratic candidate wins in the primary. EVERY LAST FREAKING TIME! And I always vote, no matter what.

For me, that's what it is to be a Democrat. I do not want any Republican to represent me in any elective office, so I always vote, and I always vote for the Democrat. I don't stay home in a fit of pique that my favorite candidate lost in the primary. That would be incredibly stupid of me to do.

VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS! If the Democrat loses, you get a Republican. So vote in every election and vote for the Democrats in every general election. How simple is that?

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Well said, and I agree 100%. Diamond_Dog Nov 2021 #1
Casey Stengel used to say when he managed the Mets: Tomconroy Nov 2021 #2
Sometimes the only choice we have is Ocelot II Nov 2021 #3
I really hate this framing. Salviati Nov 2021 #5
I was merely trying to inject a little humor; don't take it so damn seriously. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #6
Manchin may not be pure evil but he definitely has evil tendencies. PTWB Nov 2021 #8
Not really how it was framed. Joe Manchin is NOT a Republican. He just acts like one. TigressDem Nov 2021 #12
I'm not quite sure I understand your logic? walkingman Nov 2021 #18
A flawed DEM MIGHT be open to pursuasion with logic. So lesser evil, but there IS an option C TigressDem Nov 2021 #62
I understand and agree - thanks!! walkingman Nov 2021 #63
Yes indeed. nt comradebillyboy Nov 2021 #4
I'd primary Manchin first bigtree Nov 2021 #7
Here's the difference between me and the OP... brooklynite Nov 2021 #11
Good point. I don't vote for obvious losers in primary races. MineralMan Nov 2021 #14
True. Sometimes you gotta play a bit more of the big-picture "long game." n/t Beartracks Nov 2021 #25
here's the rub bigtree Nov 2021 #27
Here in Red Staten Island we nominated a nice moderate Democrat for Borough President Polybius Nov 2021 #41
And a nice AOC-type progressive would have lost by even more... brooklynite Nov 2021 #50
Oh, I'm not arguing that Polybius Nov 2021 #51
Hmm that name (Vito F) sounds familiar... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #66
The North Shore is more liberal, but still mostly more conservative than the rest of NYC Polybius Nov 2021 #71
Oh, joy, what "fun". ty electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #73
Democratic legislation seems to get passed in the House, gab13by13 Nov 2021 #9
He also was partly responsible for Gore's loss in 2000. MineralMan Nov 2021 #13
I proudly voted for McGovern gab13by13 Nov 2021 #23
McGovern was my first Presidential vote .. electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #67
Lieberman wasn't quite as bad in 2000, was he? Polybius Nov 2021 #45
That depends on how closely you looked at him. MineralMan Nov 2021 #48
I wasn't thrilled either.... 😑 electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #68
Most of the time you need 60 votes in the Senate. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #17
I would walk through rain, sleet and snow for Manchin bottomofthehill Nov 2021 #10
I'd vote for AOC 48656c6c6f20 Nov 2021 #15
I'd do that, too, if I lived in West Virginia. MineralMan Nov 2021 #16
Agree totally DENVERPOPS Nov 2021 #53
I would also vote the Democratic Candidate in either of these races LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #19
Perhaps I'm a pinch too idealistic for my own good, but.... jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #20
Manchin's D meanst that Mitch McConnell isn't Majority Leader MineralMan Nov 2021 #21
Joe Manchin has said that in principal he supports a Tomconroy Nov 2021 #24
You are correct. No Republican Senator will vote for the BBB. MineralMan Nov 2021 #30
And what good does that do when.... jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #28
Who is Senate Majority Leader? Mitch McConnell? MineralMan Nov 2021 #32
What case is there to rest? jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #35
Do you live in West Virginia? MineralMan Nov 2021 #36
One last time: jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #37
Yes! Even a DINO's (D) counts toward a Dem majority and control of the legislative agenda. Beartracks Nov 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #69
+1000000 electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #70
Voting as a strategy crud Nov 2021 #22
Yes. Exactly! MineralMan Nov 2021 #33
I DON'T vote for Republicans. I simply can't. calimary Nov 2021 #26
Nor do I, and I never miss an election. MineralMan Nov 2021 #34
I voted for McCain in the primary over George Bush in 2000 AdamGG Nov 2021 #31
I would never vote for a Republican. Richard58 Nov 2021 #38
How about if it was only AOC vs. Manchin? Polybius Nov 2021 #39
AOC would get my vote, but that will never happen. MineralMan Nov 2021 #42
I was talking about in a primary with them being the only one's left running Polybius Nov 2021 #47
Yes, it's always situational, isn't it. MineralMan Nov 2021 #49
It sort of depends on what state they are running. AOC isn't Tomconroy Nov 2021 #64
AOC nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #43
What state would this hypothetical match take place in and for what office? Kaleva Nov 2021 #58
AOC certainly shakes it up, but I gotta say that I agree with her more than Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #40
I don't disagree with her positions on issues. MineralMan Nov 2021 #46
Manchin has said he doesn't want to spend a lot of money on new social Tomconroy Nov 2021 #65
Amen. Say it again! Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #44
Yep. Me too. PatrickforB Nov 2021 #52
Where I live, Minnesota's 5th Congressional district, any Democrat with a pulse Ocelot II Nov 2021 #54
repubs nationwide are busy putting a stop to all this vote for democrats business nt msongs Nov 2021 #55
So, maybe we'd better pass things while we can? MineralMan Nov 2021 #59
I say election reform is more important than BBB and should get priority although msongs Nov 2021 #60
I think we'll get election reform done, too, but it will take killing the filibuster. MineralMan Nov 2021 #61
I would vote for AOC and would have to hold my nose to vote for Manchin BlueJac Nov 2021 #56
The second D to represent my district since the Great Depression was hated here at DU by many. Kaleva Nov 2021 #57
Every Democrat is better than any Republican. Period. nt. BlueIdaho Nov 2021 #72
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