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I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
12. My experince
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 04:27 PM
Nov 2021

With a result of excusing
violent criminal on bail and manipulating the justice system and mental health courts

I would rather see bail for only non- violent offenders.
Or misdemeanors.

Because
I knew a guy who got a wrist slap for robbing a bank. He got mental health court. So he was put at a day program I was attending.

I listened to him talk. I pretended to be like him.
I listened to him brag and he gave me useful details of his crime. Like where he threw his weapon when he lied to the cops he didnt have a gun.

He had a swastika tattoo on his forehead and other tattoos with racist and jail type stuff.

Almost as soon as he arrived he tried to get other people at program to hate gays,go along with him with his racist criminal bullshit.

I warned the staff of what he was up to. They ignored me.

One day he brought his buddies in who were not clients into program and they started bothering me and the gblt people in the program,and since staff was in denial..

I had to do something when he began to bully gays and black people

I couldn't just stand there and let it happen. So I walked up to the table he and his buddies were sitting at and I told them you try to hurt any one here I'll be sure to make your time here intolerable,asshole.

Same for these buddies of yours who arent part of this program. I said it really loud so staff would get off thier asses and
would do something like come out of thier damn offices..
Later the criminals buddies were told to leave and the program Staff had to call the police to get his asshole friends to leave.

Meanwhile a girl I was freinds with who was 18 years old started drawing racist shit for this asshole,telling me she was doing it for his gang newsletter.
She never drew shit like that before asshole got into the program. And she was a good artist.

Then one day when I wasen't there this criminal racist asshole and his buddies abducted the girl drawing racist shit for them. Took her right before program ended apparently,when it was most likely wouldn't be caught. They manipulated the hell out of her.

After a few days she escaped and ended up on a psych unit
for around 3 weeks.
Who knows what happened to her .

I warned the staff the criminal was manipulating people and it made program unsafe.

But did they listen? After it was too late and after harm was done they did.

Mental health court like bail should only be for non violent offenders.

Period.


Lock them up and throw away the key Polybius Nov 2021 #1
I struggle in finding the balance Devil Child Nov 2021 #2
I mean, it does depend on the case Polybius Nov 2021 #3
Agreed on your sentiment for the violent repeat offenders Devil Child Nov 2021 #4
I would scrutinize anyone with domestic abuse charges, too. CrispyQ Nov 2021 #9
Exactly, DV is a huge red-flag Devil Child Nov 2021 #11
I can't understand the tolerance for violence against woman cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #29
Who do you mean "them"? Silent3 Nov 2021 #27
How many arrests and convictions for violent crimes does one need to have before determining ? MichMan Nov 2021 #5
Agreed MichMan Devil Child Nov 2021 #6
One could argue that a three strikes rule was appropriate in his case MichMan Nov 2021 #7
Agreed Devil Child Nov 2021 #25
I'm not sure if I'm reading your questions correctly, so I'll just answer that violent felons should BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #8
I was trying to capture in question form the heart of Chisholm's bolded words Devil Child Nov 2021 #10
Yes. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #23
Convicted violent felons, sure. PTWB Nov 2021 #13
Of course bond only applies to those who are accused MichMan Nov 2021 #14
Appeal bonds, for example. PTWB Nov 2021 #15
Is everyone regardless of the charge entitled to a reasonable bond ? MichMan Nov 2021 #16
Generally speaking, yes. Everyone charged is entitled to bond. PTWB Nov 2021 #17
Darrell Brooks Jr. for $1000 ? MichMan Nov 2021 #18
Offered despite him breaking an earlier bond n/t Devil Child Nov 2021 #19
exactly. He never showed up for his court appearances rollin74 Nov 2021 #22
Is it your position that is a reasonable bond? PTWB Nov 2021 #20
Now he's looking at 5 mill. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #24
Let's hope not Devil Child Nov 2021 #26
My experince I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2021 #12
no bail for violent offenders rollin74 Nov 2021 #21
This highly violent offender one was just given option of $5 million bail Devil Child Nov 2021 #28
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