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TexasTowelie

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114. I don't have any complaints about Taylor being awarded the factory or the incentives offered to
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 06:55 PM
Nov 2021

get the factory, but I will also point out that there were a lot of local GOP officials that made those incentives possible too. While I haven't lived there in awhile, I was in Austin throughout the nineties and a frequent visitor of Williamson county until about ten years ago. I still have politically active friends that live there and communicate with them occasionally, while the tide is turning at best it is a purple county.

The estimated number of employees for the new Samsung factory is stated to be at more than 2,000. However, I doubt that all of them will end up in Williamson county. There will be some people that will choose to live in Travis county for the amenities of the city or to be within their social communities, while there are also three rural counties (Bastrop, Lee, Milam) that are within a 20 minute commute. Housing will be more affordable in Lee and Milam counties compared to Williamson county. There are also underlying racial tensions between the whites and blacks in Taylor that don't receive much media attention which make the city unappealing. There might be an effect on city elections in Taylor with new residents, but at a countywide or legislative district level the influx of new people isn't going to change anything unless they vote 80%-90% Democratic which isn't realistic.

While Williamson county voted for Biden in 2020, I don't consider the county to be blue in any shape or form. One election result does not change the fact that the county has voted Republican in every other election since at least the eighties when I was a student. Nearly every elected office at the municipal, county, and regional levels is held by a Republican. The Democratic party apparatus at the local level isn't very strong while the GOP is well organized with multiple organizations active in the county; meanwhile, the largest base for liberal thinkers is at Southwestern University.

As far as being cynical is concerned, I have lived in both rural and urban areas of the state (e.g. Irving). The last time that I've had a Democrat represent me in any political body (local, regional, state, or federal office except for president) was in 2000. I've learned to read the political landscape pretty well which makes me a pragmatist. While I hope that the county becomes reliably Democratic, I'll need more than one election result to be convinced that Williamson county is firmly in the blue column.

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Why would you feel the need to respond in advance to complaints? SouthernCal_Dem Nov 2021 #1
Because I'd like to move the debate to the substance of the story, not the incidentals. brooklynite Nov 2021 #3
The 'substance' of the story is a lie based on a biased opinion of some 'focus group'. Budi Nov 2021 #61
Exactly.. there is No Cha Nov 2021 #64
Every focus group's opinion is "biased". That's the point. brooklynite Nov 2021 #69
The problem comes when the Politico Writer Interprets the Focus Group results. Budi Nov 2021 #74
What is biased in their reporting of the results? brooklynite Nov 2021 #76
Perceived superiority. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #6
And what do voters believe that the GOP stands for? Eyeball_Kid Nov 2021 #2
brooklynite melm00se Nov 2021 #17
I guarantee you this, gab13by13 Nov 2021 #23
THIS is the winning message Cosmocat Nov 2021 #111
WTF's this "brand" thing mean? panader0 Nov 2021 #84
+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #87
Ok, let me clarify melm00se Nov 2021 #91
So agree, Panader0 and Gab13by13. Democratic principles Hortensis Nov 2021 #99
That's what we think they stand for (and its a good argument) but that opinion is not universal Amishman Nov 2021 #100
True. kentuck Nov 2021 #4
I would say Dems focus on issues, Repugs focus on messaging. OnDoutside Nov 2021 #24
Indeed! kentuck Nov 2021 #27
Is your favorite publication still saying DeSantis won the pandemic? BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #5
+1! Cha Nov 2021 #66
to point #3 anti stupid Nov 2021 #7
One thing I have noticed with the messaging... kentuck Nov 2021 #10
repubs have a huge echo chamber with amplifiers anti stupid Nov 2021 #29
Because MSM has the same interests as Republicans. kentuck Nov 2021 #32
I have a complaint with #2. gab13by13 Nov 2021 #8
Until politicians, including Democrats, are willing to tell the truth, Ron Green Nov 2021 #9
false equivalency anti stupid Nov 2021 #13
2000: Schwarzenegger introduces the Hummer. 2021: Biden introduces Ron Green Nov 2021 #35
The problem with "Truth" is who defines it. In most cases walkingman Nov 2021 #16
ummm anti stupid Nov 2021 #40
Neither one. Any sort of Hummer should not even be made, Ron Green Nov 2021 #46
Ilhan Omar has also made some statements about eliminating incarceration. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #106
A lot of Americans can't think for the themselves anyway. Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #11
But it's not the younger voters Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #44
I worked with a lot of older workers. Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #51
The "younger voters" you describe also ate Tide Pods & bought the lie about Free Shit. Budi Nov 2021 #65
Correct Cosmocat Nov 2021 #112
One thing is we should bypass the states and give the money directly in all cases we can dsc Nov 2021 #12
I agree with some of your points awesomerwb1 Nov 2021 #14
Why is it incumbent on the rank and file to come up with a messaging strategy? dalton99a Nov 2021 #15
Agree. kentuck Nov 2021 #19
+1 leftstreet Nov 2021 #37
More along the lines of "you don't know all the messaging we're doing..." brooklynite Nov 2021 #37
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 We need to stop blaming "other shit" for dem poor messaging !!! uponit7771 Nov 2021 #72
They are running ads in my local media touting benefits of infrastructure bill. That's a start. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #18
The takeaway is that we need to push for much more aggressively progressive legislation. PTWB Nov 2021 #20
i dont feel broken... samnsara Nov 2021 #21
I saw a poll a few days ago voters are overwelmingly doc03 Nov 2021 #22
In some cases it may take years, gab13by13 Nov 2021 #49
Voters aren't connecting BBB with dems, poor messaging. We need to do better and stop blaming every uponit7771 Nov 2021 #73
I agree all we have heard for months is bickering doc03 Nov 2021 #85
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2021 #90
The Democratic Party represents a very broad coalition, so there are (too) many messages andym Nov 2021 #25
When they poll these people ask them what Republicans have done for them and what they stand for. chowder66 Nov 2021 #26
Republicans TheFarseer Nov 2021 #98
This. So much this. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #107
Yes, stop with labeling everyone a racist! TheFarseer Nov 2021 #110
We live in an era of negative partisanship. Blaukraut Nov 2021 #28
These results do not surprise me .. and while they should be considered, they should not be taken karynnj Nov 2021 #30
I think the Democratic loss in VA may have been misread? kentuck Nov 2021 #36
The "infrastructure bill" could fix it... kentuck Nov 2021 #31
Sigh. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #33
Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #34
That's your assessment of President Biden, "an 80 year old white dude"? George II Nov 2021 #42
yeah he only just turned 79 WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #43
Why is politico & it's writers even allowed on DU anymore? Budi Nov 2021 #39
I just checked "https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/" - coincidentally they last updated.... George II Nov 2021 #48
Thanks. "We tell you what to think" -Joseph Goebbles Budi Nov 2021 #50
It's difficult when our brand is "doing something." joshcryer Nov 2021 #41
"Vote For More Corporate Subsidizing!" leftstreet Nov 2021 #52
See? joshcryer Nov 2021 #60
The bill isn't subsidizing the citizens of Taylor TX leftstreet Nov 2021 #70
The Samsung factory, directly benefitting from it... joshcryer Nov 2021 #79
LOL leftstreet Nov 2021 #86
Demand begets supply. joshcryer Nov 2021 #109
I hope you get your "educated smart people" leftstreet Nov 2021 #113
Okay, you're discussing my old stomping grounds. TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #89
The Samsung site will be 1200 acres Klaralven Nov 2021 #101
It is going to be outside the US 79 bypass to the southwest of Taylor with some frontage on FM 973. TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #103
Thanks Klaralven Nov 2021 #104
You are so wrong. You haven't lived there since the 80s? joshcryer Nov 2021 #108
I don't have any complaints about Taylor being awarded the factory or the incentives offered to TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #114
+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #83
"The Democratic brand is" NOT "broken." George II Nov 2021 #45
++++ hlthe2b Nov 2021 #92
What is your deal? BradAllison Nov 2021 #47
Care to elaborate? brooklynite Nov 2021 #53
I think he has a point. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #93
Here's another fact for you Bettie Nov 2021 #54
I have no object to what you consider progressive goals...as long as you can sell them. brooklynite Nov 2021 #56
Your posted headline is a flat out Lie Budi Nov 2021 #55
I'm reporting on the research. Feel free to present a different case. brooklynite Nov 2021 #58
Politico's article was sourced from "a recent focus group" Budi Nov 2021 #59
Crickets.. Cha Nov 2021 #67
The first point in the source data.... brooklynite Nov 2021 #68
The data that a conservative writer interpreted from a 'focus group'. Budi Nov 2021 #77
NO. The report OF the firm that carried out the Focus Group.... brooklynite Nov 2021 #80
The Firm. So what. The Headline is a Politico writer's article. An opinion. Budi Nov 2021 #82
umad bro? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #97
"Are Third Way's Focus Groups Valid Research?" lapucelle Nov 2021 #96
Update: THIRD WAY just sent me the hard data... brooklynite Nov 2021 #57
DM'd you... nt WarGamer Nov 2021 #62
Damning report. joshcryer Nov 2021 #81
We might disagree a bit on points 1 and 2, but 3 is spot on. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #63
Dems repeated THE SAME MISTAKES FROM OBAMA CARE in BBB and let the GQP define the bill uponit7771 Nov 2021 #71
Oh, joy! blogslug Nov 2021 #75
First 2 paragraphs: collapse, wrong, bad, worse, problems, failings, flagging, wreck. betsuni Nov 2021 #78
been telling the DNC things for years but it doesnt really want to hear from msongs Nov 2021 #88
Here's #4. lapucelle Nov 2021 #94
Message #1: The Republicans are greedy, liars, and insane muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #95
Politico 🙄 OBrien Nov 2021 #102
Not saying this poll isn't accurate Mad_Machine76 Nov 2021 #105
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