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Amishman

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29. better to tax it

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 02:52 PM

Nov 2021

banning export puts a cap on how much can be meaningfully used by limiting the potential market.

A modest tax helps domestic consumers without taking away any of the potential market, while also providing additional funding which can be put to good use (perhaps mitigating climate damage caused by the use of fossil fuels?)

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My brother, an Iowa farmer WHO VOTED FOR BIDEN, [View all] Sogo Nov 2021 OP

Petroleum inputs for food crops seem like a risky bet. Ron Green Nov 2021 #1

Farming practices for hundreds of acres Sogo Nov 2021 #4

NAt gas is needed to make fertilizer. nt oldsoftie Nov 2021 #24

From an earth-based point of view, that seems like a problem. n/t Ron Green Nov 2021 #43

Exactly. Sogo Nov 2021 #51

All this, and he's blaming Biden?? bluestarone Nov 2021 #2

Maybe you should wake up and Sogo Nov 2021 #6

Yea right ok. bluestarone Nov 2021 #10

Hmm. Context. The OP provided us with context. Hekate Nov 2021 #48

Applaud! nt KPN Nov 2021 #40

I didn't hear blame. I heard this is an opportunity to score with farmers. TigressDem Nov 2021 #36

You didn't read it like i did bluestarone Nov 2021 #39

The "Biden wake up part..." TigressDem Nov 2021 #42

Plus not NOT ONE MENTION bluestarone Nov 2021 #45

Well, the way you read it is wrong. Sogo Nov 2021 #46

Well, WE KNOW the truth and it's still got wiggle room to bring the brother around. TigressDem Nov 2021 #47

The average voter isn't nearly as informed as we here at DU are Polybius Nov 2021 #77

Well said and spot on. I'm tired of peope blaming before understanding. KPN Nov 2021 #41

Except BlueStarOne was defending Biden.... that's a good thing. TigressDem Nov 2021 #44

While blaming Sogo's brother the farmer KPN Nov 2021 #75

Telling the truth about brother's popsition doesn't endorse blaming Biden. TigressDem Nov 2021 #82

Biden does indeed hire the best people Bayard Nov 2021 #3

Yes. My brother was talking about writing to Sogo Nov 2021 #9

Vilsack is run by corporate ag. roody Nov 2021 #20

You have the facts on that statement? Bayard Nov 2021 #31

Yes. roody Nov 2021 #78

Farmers dry out corn in propane sheds DenaliDemocrat Nov 2021 #5

They voted for Obama.... Sogo Nov 2021 #7

They did not. Obama did better but he most certainly DenaliDemocrat Nov 2021 #12

He won the Iowa Dem caucus Sogo Nov 2021 #13

sorry. agree with 98% of what you're saying stopdiggin Nov 2021 #15

But lost the rural vote. He did about 3% better than Kerry DenaliDemocrat Nov 2021 #17

Iowa. The state Trump won by 9% in 2016 and 8% in 2020. That Iowa? Okay. ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #26

Funny How Government Gets The Blame modrepub Nov 2021 #8

I think that's all that's being suggested here. Sogo Nov 2021 #11

What Good Does Government Help Do modrepub Nov 2021 #18

that's a pretty solid 'free market' point of view stopdiggin Nov 2021 #22

Iowa farmers didn't like the China tariffs Trump put in after voting for him +9% in 2016 so ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #30

Your bro needs to wake up Blues Heron Nov 2021 #14

your casual (disdainful?) dismissal doesn't really serve stopdiggin Nov 2021 #19

Remember his bro allegedly VOTED FOR BIDEN Blues Heron Nov 2021 #21

and another disdainful dismissal stopdiggin Nov 2021 #23

Still not buying it Blues Heron Nov 2021 #25

And yet he uses language like Biden needs to "wake up" that is associated with Fox talking points ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #32

It's just concern trolling 101 complete with the team of wingmen Blues Heron Nov 2021 #34

Oh, aren't you the slueth....NOT. Sogo Nov 2021 #50

....all caps to avert the responses like the Sogo Nov 2021 #49

cool bro story bro Blues Heron Nov 2021 #52

Here's what I'm not buying.... Sogo Nov 2021 #56

who did your "bro" vote for in 2016 Blues Heron Nov 2021 #58

Hillary. Sogo Nov 2021 #60

OK so Obama, Clinton and Biden Blues Heron Nov 2021 #61

Who said anything about him going to the "dark side?" Sogo Nov 2021 #62

the implication is we'll lose him if Biden doesn't "wake up" Blues Heron Nov 2021 #64

Your "implication" is way off base. Sogo Nov 2021 #65

you've gone from dismissal, to calling the OP poster a liar stopdiggin Nov 2021 #68

The avg voter doesnt care that the President is "doing fine" oldsoftie Nov 2021 #28

Yep. Sogo Nov 2021 #54

We could ban the export of liquified natural gas Klaralven Nov 2021 #16

better to tax it Amishman Nov 2021 #29

Fertilizer companies have been sounding the alarm for a month now NickB79 Nov 2021 #27

Withholding Natural Gas? Roy Rolling Nov 2021 #33

Complex problem with no bumper sticker solution. jaxexpat Nov 2021 #35

Not to worry. Iowa farmers, like coal miners, always get plenty of attention and assistance. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #37

Does he want/expect subsidies? moondust Nov 2021 #38

It has always been thus NQAS Nov 2021 #53

I'm done with farmers PERIOD. Joe Nation Nov 2021 #55

Hoo boy....... n/t gay texan Nov 2021 #59

And what will you be eating? marie999 Nov 2021 #67

Typical GusBob Nov 2021 #73

NO. James48 Nov 2021 #57

But we do have the Defense Production Act.... Sogo Nov 2021 #72

Listen the farm belt does not vote D The Jungle 1 Nov 2021 #63

An organic farmer or someone who's selling genetically modified Monsanto poison? traitorsgalore Nov 2021 #66

Maybe there needs to be a subsidized path to organic farming... hunter Nov 2021 #69

it's no secret... myohmy2 Nov 2021 #70

I'll bet he is having a hard time. This inflation is hard leftyladyfrommo Nov 2021 #71

As maybe you can tell from this thread GusBob Nov 2021 #74

I don't think it was ever established whether the brother Ron Green Nov 2021 #76

Those monocultures are what make meat so cheap here NickB79 Nov 2021 #81

SO WHAT? betsuni Nov 2021 #79

Venezuela's oil exports bounce to over 700,000 bpd in Oct -data Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #80