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Ms. Toad

(38,824 posts)
60. They definitely saw you coming.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:59 AM
Nov 2021
Don’t let the name selvedge fool you into thinking it is better denim. Like all products, quality standards can range depending on the supplier. There are good and bad quality fabrics in both selvedge and non-selvedge denims. Often, mass producers of value priced jeans use suppliers not recognized for making high-quality denim. Some mass-market brands will also use the cache of mills known for producing quality denim to produce cheap denim that looks the part, so do your home-work.


Unlike most fabric, most denim uses a raw edge, rather than a bound one. When jeans advertise they use selvedge denim, all it does is identify the edge treatment of the bolt of fabric. When they lay out the fabric, they use the selvedge (self edge) as the cut line on the outer seam so they can open it flat without needing to bind the edge to keep it from fraying.

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I just bought a pair of jeans for $230. [View all] Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 OP
You can do a lot better than that price. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #1
I've never seen that website before, thanks! FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #7
Yep! WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #13
Thanks for this! Tanuki Nov 2021 #48
You're welcome! WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #50
Really? Why? OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2021 #2
Where can I get I get union made in the USA jeans for $115? Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 #4
They definitely saw you coming. Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #60
Japanese raw selvedge, made on old shuttle looms using premium fabrics and natural Celerity Nov 2021 #91
I was responding to the OP - Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #106
I posted my reply for this reason Celerity Nov 2021 #108
That's not a great endorsement for unions. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #98
It appears that there is no reason to believe the pants were union made. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #107
Congratulations! You make too much money! Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #3
Is there such thing as too much money? LisaL Nov 2021 #8
I was just being kind of sarcastic, but since you asked, Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #21
I do like the Robinson poem but I like the song better and I heard it first. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2021 #39
Ooh, that's good! Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #40
Success, money and celebrity status discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2021 #83
Great song Freddie Nov 2021 #42
I went to sleep with the side of the Sounds of Silence album rsdsharp Nov 2021 #43
I lived in Robinson's home town for a decade... eShirl Nov 2021 #52
I'd personally LOVE to have "too much money" Happy Hoosier Nov 2021 #85
I would be embarrassed to say that. Nt USALiberal Nov 2021 #5
Thank you. NurseJackie Nov 2021 #11
You too! :-) USALiberal Nov 2021 #15
I'm sorry but the first thing that comes to mind is Maeve Nov 2021 #6
First thing that Timewas Nov 2021 #16
Hmm, I have some things I'd like to sell you leftstreet Nov 2021 #9
Boy. I thought I was living large when I ordered a $20 martini. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #10
That is groceries for a week for my family. onecaliberal Nov 2021 #12
That's just nutty. They saw you coming. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #14
At a certain point, you are just paying for the label. LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #17
Treat yo'self! Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #18
Sounds like an investment. Hopefully they will last you a long time. nt chowder66 Nov 2021 #19
For that price you should get new genes. milestogo Nov 2021 #20
What brand? Designer jeans go for that much. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2021 #22
Williamsburg Garment Company. And $230 was the sale price. Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 #25
Where does it indicate that it's union made? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #27
This pair isn't because the owner custom makes it. But from what I have read.. Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 #28
Where did you read that information? I can't find it anywhere. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #29
I don't remember where I read it probably on Reddit. Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 #31
He wouldn't "use union," his employees would be union. And I'd bet folding money -- the difference WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #33
Well that would certainly be a disappointment. Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 #34
Never a bad idea if you can't find the information on the website. Good luck! WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #35
so you told an untruth about it being so expensive due to being union made eShirl Nov 2021 #56
Wow, those are custom made. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2021 #46
Check their return policy. nt chowder66 Nov 2021 #23
Why isn't this in the Lounge? Boomerproud Nov 2021 #24
Lol! +1000 USALiberal Nov 2021 #32
That deserves its own thread here. Kaleva Nov 2021 #63
It's about "Union Made" LeftInTX Nov 2021 #111
That money would Busterscruggs Nov 2021 #26
yeah, right. nocoincidences Nov 2021 #30
:::sniff sniff::: Stinky The Clown Nov 2021 #36
I hope the brand was.... WaterSong1951 Nov 2021 #37
It's your money. Spend how you want! Nt VarryOn Nov 2021 #38
Must be nice. GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #41
So the question of the evening is: dpibel Nov 2021 #44
It appears there is a question about whether these are union made. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #73
My question is.. Deuxcents Nov 2021 #45
Carhartt jeans are made in the US left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #47
Link? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #51
Why did you feel the need to share this? left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #49
because... tenderfoot Nov 2021 #66
Meanwhile people are homeless and hungry in America left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #75
But they aren't homeless and hungry because of this JI7 Nov 2021 #86
. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #87
this is should paint a clearer picture tenderfoot Nov 2021 #97
Hmmm Hekate Nov 2021 #125
I think they're bagging on Unions and American made products tenderfoot Nov 2021 #130
i recently bought a new coffee maker for $28 orleans Nov 2021 #53
Are those the ones with all the holes in them? nt doc03 Nov 2021 #54
No, these jeans are "raw". I'll post a review when I receive them. Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 #57
Ka-ching! (Sound of cash register) LeftInTX Nov 2021 #112
I'm a lawyer too, and I never paid more than $20 marybourg Nov 2021 #55
They look great and once in a while a person needs a splurge! MLAA Nov 2021 #58
This thread is a hoot! BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #59
I get all of my jeans at yard sales. multigraincracker Nov 2021 #61
Why would you pay that for a pair of jeans? That's way too much. brush Nov 2021 #62
Says who? LisaL Nov 2021 #67
+1 Celerity Nov 2021 #94
Yes he can, but it's still too much. Would you pay that for one pair of jeans? brush Nov 2021 #110
The funny noive of some chastising North Shore Chicago Nov 2021 #64
No kidding, think of the money some spend on gaming! nt BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #68
I feel attacked! Sympthsical Nov 2021 #115
I made a thread in the lounge for all us to fess up on... LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #124
I spend a lot of money on shoes lol. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #131
Yep. LisaL Nov 2021 #69
Because he came here to brag about it Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 2021 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Buns_of_Fire Nov 2021 #70
That's more than I spend on clothes in a year. panader0 Nov 2021 #71
I think I'd be afraid to wear them. What if something happened? Buns_of_Fire Nov 2021 #72
After reading the thread, I am wondering if the pants come with corn flakes and a pit bull. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #74
And it all happened at the Olive Garden Solly Mack Nov 2021 #76
I'm breast feeding right now! Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #77
You win the thread! Solly Mack Nov 2021 #78
Wait! Is that the door buzzard I hear? peacefreak2.0 Nov 2021 #80
You did. Ding! There it goes again! Solly Mack Nov 2021 #81
Right? That's why we love it here! Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Nov 2021 #79
And I just bought a pair of brand new 5-pocket jeans for $9.99 MineralMan Nov 2021 #84
UNION, and made in the USA iemanja Nov 2021 #100
Yes. We do buy jeans made in China, or Singapore, or somewhere else. MineralMan Nov 2021 #103
I don't spend that amount either iemanja Nov 2021 #104
I'm not criticizing the OP. He can buy whatever he wants. MineralMan Nov 2021 #105
Except that these are not Union made, Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #129
Fleet Farm is a cool store...Don't have them here. LeftInTX Nov 2021 #114
Some people call it the "Man Mall" MineralMan Nov 2021 #118
Lots of Tractor Supply Stores in Texas MineralMan Nov 2021 #119
They're not Fleet Farm!!! LeftInTX Nov 2021 #120
True. MineralMan Nov 2021 #121
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #89
What will you use them for? Tink41 Nov 2021 #90
My son was talking about Japanese jeans going for that price, he bought. LizBeth Nov 2021 #92
JMHO, and you can do/spend/post/wear what you want. moriah Nov 2021 #93
LOL, funny how ticked off people are about it traitorsgalore Nov 2021 #95
Now if I had instead bought a $375 pot... Progressive Lawyer Nov 2021 #96
lol iemanja Nov 2021 #101
So well played. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #113
I think everyone as a right to buy... LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #127
That's what clothes would cost in a world where we bought local iemanja Nov 2021 #99
You're as spendthrift and elitist as that awful Kamala Harris! maxsolomon Nov 2021 #102
All American Clothing Company DeeNice Nov 2021 #109
I got Armani Exchange for $110 and love them Polybius Nov 2021 #116
What does this pair of pants do that lesser-priced pants can't? nt Torchlight Nov 2021 #117
I had turkey tacos for lunch IronLionZion Nov 2021 #122
Why should anyone care Raftergirl Nov 2021 #123
Pretty sure the OP has done an excellent punk job (ala the old Punked show). BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #128
Sounds like a nice pair of jeans spinbaby Nov 2021 #126
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Nov 2021 #132
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