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Omnipresent

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64. The angle of your argument doesn't apply to my response.

Wed Dec 1, 2021, 09:33 AM

Dec 2021

I didn’t address race, just police response timing to two separate situations.

Do we know the race of the smash and grab crowd?

Did the police allow the smash and grab crowd to flee, because they were white?

Your ability to posture in the spirit of TFG, does little to inform me, but reminds me of how pompous some people can get on DU.

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About those smash and grabs... [View all] Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 OP

Why would police do their job if shop lifting doc03 Nov 2021 #1

Good point. jimfields33 Nov 2021 #2

It might be a good point, IF Mariana Nov 2021 #61

That was more than shoplifting. That was vandalism. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #5

Vandalism, assault and battery, armed robbery, etc., etc. Floyd R. Turbo Nov 2021 #9

I know. Why is everyone else seeing this as a simple shoplifting? Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #11

Myopia. Floyd R. Turbo Nov 2021 #14

It fits with the right-wing narrative. Mariana Nov 2021 #60

What happen to them if they get caught? I'm thinking doc03 Nov 2021 #24

No it is not. People get arrested for it every day. Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #16

This isn't shoplifting. Mariana Nov 2021 #59

Do you want smash-and-grabbers strangled at the scene too? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #3

What? Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #6

Any time you want cops on the scene, that's what you risk. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #8

This was an active and excessive destruction of property. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #10

Yes, protecting property is one of their main purposes. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #12

And protecting property is...bad? Dial H For Hero Nov 2021 #42

When you enforce it by killing people, yeah, the model kind of sucks. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #43

So lock em up Calculating Nov 2021 #50

That doesn't sound like a very accurate model. Let's talk numbers. Dial H For Hero Nov 2021 #57

Seriously? Calculating Nov 2021 #49

. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #56

I don't think the police are engaging in events like this until they have adequate force dutch777 Nov 2021 #4

This was destruction of property. This was not a regular shoplifting. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #7

The point is still valid, a couple officers isn't going to engage a large violent group Amishman Nov 2021 #48

The point of the smash and grab is to not stick around Sympthsical Nov 2021 #13

The next time it happens, one of those fine people who carry should shot the tires of Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #15

What? Voltaire2 Nov 2021 #18

There is a big difference between shooting people and shooting the tires of a Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #21

People in real life do not have that kind of aim Sympthsical Nov 2021 #33

So, you visualize a car that is speeding away, when Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #34

Bullets bounce in any scenario Sympthsical Nov 2021 #35

Frankly, I would rather the gun carry people to take aim at inanimate objects, than people. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #38

The lesser evil in this case would be not aiming at all Sympthsical Nov 2021 #39

You don't need guns to disable a car. rgbecker Dec 2021 #66

I doubt Good Will employees in California are packing Sympthsical Nov 2021 #19

In your case, I don't see any other option either. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #23

Given the level of organization, I'd imagine look outs are involved Sympthsical Nov 2021 #29

I understand your point about locals learning the police patterns. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #31

Timing. Omnipresent Nov 2021 #17

The premise is a black man can't sell cigarettes without being executed. Hortensis Nov 2021 #37

The angle of your argument doesn't apply to my response. Omnipresent Dec 2021 #64

These are planned crimes. If they see or think cops are there they wont do it . JI7 Nov 2021 #20

So many stores - So few cops. MineralMan Nov 2021 #22

I can see that. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #25

I don't know, but response time is never MineralMan Nov 2021 #26

I think I read somewhere that they nabbed seven or eight people, Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #27

The strategy they are using in some areas of San Francisco Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #46

That might work, but will also create difficulties for shoppers. MineralMan Nov 2021 #47

Well, flash mobs spraying pepper spray Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #51

Yes, but the odds of that happening are very, very low. MineralMan Nov 2021 #53

Well, a few people have been assaulted Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #54

Yes. Employees are the most likely to encounter this, for sure. MineralMan Nov 2021 #55

Are you seriously asking how this is possible? PTWB Nov 2021 #28

Here's the irony of your statement. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #30

When seconds matter, the police are minutes away (as some are fond of saying). PTWB Nov 2021 #32

Not that I like the slogan, "Defund the Police," Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #36

So now you think that they didn't respond at all? PTWB Nov 2021 #40

They did. They just arrived late. I presume. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #41

The police rarely stop an actual crime in progress. Voltaire2 Dec 2021 #67

The answer depends on who is reading it, and what that person identifies more with. taxi Nov 2021 #44

Smash and grab is OC. Patton French Nov 2021 #45

I have a secret for you greenjar_01 Nov 2021 #52

Once again. We are in a manufactured panic Voltaire2 Nov 2021 #58

No, no!! This kind of thing has NEVER EVER happened before!! Mariana Nov 2021 #62

In high prices stores where the security is shit AwakeAtLast Nov 2021 #63

Good question ck4829 Dec 2021 #65