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Tommy Carcetti

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21. Well, any act of violence is going to have the effect of intimidation.

Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:43 PM

Dec 2021

But was there a cause greater than himself that he sought to intimidate in the name of, or was it just a matter of personal vengeance/revenge? There's the distinguishing line.

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Michigan Shooter's Parents Had Been Called Into School That Morning: Sheriff [View all] RandySF Dec 2021 OP

This whole thing is really heartbreaking. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #1

Sounding increasingly likely the parents may face some charges of their own ck4829 Dec 2021 #2

Mom was a Trumpster Johnny2X2X Dec 2021 #3

Yikes. She's a mental case all on her own. Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #11

She raised a killer! VMA131Marine Dec 2021 #28

And she also can't spell. LastDemocratInSC Dec 2021 #31

She was so worried about Hillary Horse with no Name Dec 2021 #34

+1. "Grab Me!" dalton99a Dec 2021 #36

Wow! I can't believe what I just read... lol secondwind Dec 2021 #39

Wow Dan Dec 2021 #40

that kid never had a chance Skittles Dec 2021 #46

Just curious, about the author IzzaNuDay Dec 2021 #48

Terrorism...what is up with that. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #4

You don't think scaring the crap out of a whole school of people is an... brush Dec 2021 #8

Depends if there was a greater agenda at play. Tommy Carcetti Dec 2021 #13

Oh please. The greater agenda was to shoot and kill. Mission accomplished... brush Dec 2021 #14

Then that would seem to be a case of deranged mass murder. Tommy Carcetti Dec 2021 #19

The word has a definition, you (and the authorities) can't just ignore it ... Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #20

It's a word that went from self-described label to something you apparently need government ck4829 Dec 2021 #25

Who the hell 'self-describes' as 'terrorists'? Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #30

Historical ck4829 Dec 2021 #49

Seems reasonable to suggest he intended to intimidate many of his schoolmates Torchlight Dec 2021 #17

Well, any act of violence is going to have the effect of intimidation. Tommy Carcetti Dec 2021 #21

I'm sure that distinguishing line will be made plain as time goes on. Torchlight Dec 2021 #23

Every violent crime scares the crap out the direct victims and anyone witnessing it. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #18

Huh, not just for Muslims. Deserves it. ck4829 Dec 2021 #9

It is an unusual charge sarisataka Dec 2021 #15

The incident fits because of the way it is defined in MI law. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #24

It needs (iii) however sarisataka Dec 2021 #26

I stand corrected. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #27

But it has to include all three elements, and there doesn't seem to be a governmental target here. TheRickles Dec 2021 #38

I completely missed the "all" when I posted. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #45

Well, a school is an organ of the government. It could fit. ck4829 Dec 2021 #50

The behavior Johnny2X2X Dec 2021 #5

is that true? nt Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #10

Do you have a link? sarisataka Dec 2021 #12

Is this the one where the father bought the gun like a week before the killings? RockRaven Dec 2021 #6

Yep RandySF Dec 2021 #7

The parents should really be charged as well. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #16

Does MI Zeitghost Dec 2021 #22

If the shooter is not an adult, gun owner could be held liable Kaleva Dec 2021 #42

Gun Control is Impossible NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #29

I guess you don't see the inherent dichotomy of your post? Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #32

Agree with you re your proposed laws kcr Dec 2021 #33

The laws don't PREVENT rampage shootings. They would 1. reduce the frequency and 2. punish them. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #35

That is what I would hope would happen NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #47

Wondering moreland01 Dec 2021 #37

I come from Rittenhouse/Republican murder state of Wisconsin. This shooter should johnthewoodworker Dec 2021 #41

He was in trouble but nobody thought to ask where the gun was. milestogo Dec 2021 #43

Apparently, authorities removed many guns from the home. Kaleva Dec 2021 #44