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ck4829

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25. It's a word that went from self-described label to something you apparently need government
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:53 PM
Dec 2021

permission to use to label someone else.

The laws of space and time aren't going to be played like with putty if we say "terrorism" for a range of things, civilization is not going to collapse.

Really, if you want to get down to the nitty gritty, it's a social construct full of psychological, social, and political factors that provide heavy influence into who and what is or is not a terrorist attack (Which is equally important).

This is shown in kind of like how the government has to be dragged kicking and screaming to call the Ku Klux Klan or the Atomwaffen Division terrorist groups but had absolutely no problem doing the same for a couple of environmentalists who burn some hummers. And there was James Comey wringing his hands on whether to call Dylann Roof a terrorist (And if he wasn't then who is?)

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This whole thing is really heartbreaking. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #1
Sounding increasingly likely the parents may face some charges of their own ck4829 Dec 2021 #2
Mom was a Trumpster Johnny2X2X Dec 2021 #3
Yikes. She's a mental case all on her own. Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #11
She raised a killer! VMA131Marine Dec 2021 #28
And she also can't spell. LastDemocratInSC Dec 2021 #31
She was so worried about Hillary Horse with no Name Dec 2021 #34
+1. "Grab Me!" dalton99a Dec 2021 #36
Wow! I can't believe what I just read... lol secondwind Dec 2021 #39
Wow Dan Dec 2021 #40
that kid never had a chance Skittles Dec 2021 #46
Just curious, about the author IzzaNuDay Dec 2021 #48
Terrorism...what is up with that. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #4
You don't think scaring the crap out of a whole school of people is an... brush Dec 2021 #8
Depends if there was a greater agenda at play. Tommy Carcetti Dec 2021 #13
Oh please. The greater agenda was to shoot and kill. Mission accomplished... brush Dec 2021 #14
Then that would seem to be a case of deranged mass murder. Tommy Carcetti Dec 2021 #19
The word has a definition, you (and the authorities) can't just ignore it ... Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #20
It's a word that went from self-described label to something you apparently need government ck4829 Dec 2021 #25
Who the hell 'self-describes' as 'terrorists'? Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #30
Historical ck4829 Dec 2021 #49
Seems reasonable to suggest he intended to intimidate many of his schoolmates Torchlight Dec 2021 #17
Well, any act of violence is going to have the effect of intimidation. Tommy Carcetti Dec 2021 #21
I'm sure that distinguishing line will be made plain as time goes on. Torchlight Dec 2021 #23
Every violent crime scares the crap out the direct victims and anyone witnessing it. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #18
Huh, not just for Muslims. Deserves it. ck4829 Dec 2021 #9
It is an unusual charge sarisataka Dec 2021 #15
The incident fits because of the way it is defined in MI law. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #24
It needs (iii) however sarisataka Dec 2021 #26
I stand corrected. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #27
But it has to include all three elements, and there doesn't seem to be a governmental target here. TheRickles Dec 2021 #38
I completely missed the "all" when I posted. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #45
Well, a school is an organ of the government. It could fit. ck4829 Dec 2021 #50
The behavior Johnny2X2X Dec 2021 #5
is that true? nt Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #10
Do you have a link? sarisataka Dec 2021 #12
Is this the one where the father bought the gun like a week before the killings? RockRaven Dec 2021 #6
Yep RandySF Dec 2021 #7
The parents should really be charged as well. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #16
Does MI Zeitghost Dec 2021 #22
If the shooter is not an adult, gun owner could be held liable Kaleva Dec 2021 #42
Gun Control is Impossible NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #29
I guess you don't see the inherent dichotomy of your post? Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #32
Agree with you re your proposed laws kcr Dec 2021 #33
The laws don't PREVENT rampage shootings. They would 1. reduce the frequency and 2. punish them. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #35
That is what I would hope would happen NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #47
Wondering moreland01 Dec 2021 #37
I come from Rittenhouse/Republican murder state of Wisconsin. This shooter should johnthewoodworker Dec 2021 #41
He was in trouble but nobody thought to ask where the gun was. milestogo Dec 2021 #43
Apparently, authorities removed many guns from the home. Kaleva Dec 2021 #44
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