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slightlv

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41. I see so many knock-ons happening if Roe is invalidated.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:54 PM
Dec 2021

We truly will be 3rd class citizens. We women are the canaries in the coal mines. They saw the "lasting" support for the "Me Too" movement. They saw what Trump could get away with and still have so much support. They saw what others could get away with in court and walk out all but Scott-free. Our rights, one by one, will be stripped from us. The right to hold credit in our own name is a late-comer, only available since the 1970's; it'll be stripped. The right to own property in our own name; again, a late comer. Kiss it goodbye. So many inroads we made since the 1970's and 1980's. All we marched and fought for from the 1960's and on will be gone. Back to the 1950's and prior, women!

And once they have done it to us women and seen that they have succeeded with so little effort, they will use the map for all the other marginalized groups. Like I said, we are but the canaries in the coalmines. We marched for everyone else to help everyone else, because we not only knew what it felt like to be on the margins, we didn't want *anyone* to BE on the margins. Call it empathy, call it our nurturing nature, call it our democratic proclivities. But what happens to one will happen to all of us once the least of us goes down.

Here I'm going to say something Non-PC. Women, amongst minorities, I'm afraid are the least of us. Why? Because we are not now, nor have we ever been united. We have too many among our ranks who are on the "other side." Who fight against women's rights. Who fight against the right to make their own decisions. Who fight against their right to their own lives. I can't begin to understand them, anymore than I can begin to understand the republican mind. But my opinion is that, in the whole of history, only those groups who are one - united against an opposing force can repel and defeat that opposing force. And women, that ain't us. And I say this with both anger and tears in my eyes.

I don't know if the tears are from anger or grief or if it really matters anymore. I'm 65. I can't get pregnant any longer. But all good credit we have is in my name. If they strip my credit from me and my husband, we're sunk. If they take away my SSA check and make us live on hubby's alone, as it used to be? We might as well either divorce (like it used to be done), or shuffle off this mortal coil together (also as it used to be done).

I'm not prone to hyperbole. There is a real roadmap here the Dominionists and other Republican extremists are looking to inflict on us. Forewarned is forearmed. I can only hope some country would offer refugee status to American women should this crap come to pass. It's not beyond thought, I hope. Just one generation less, and I could have had right to return to Ireland, drat it all!!!

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To me, that sounds like Sonja knows the Supreme Court will end up overturning Roe. Claustrum Dec 2021 #1
I think you're right. Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #4
This 10,000 % msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #42
Of course they are ramapo Dec 2021 #44
"Freedom in this country is not a birth right." Interesting. The terrorists were wrong? jaxexpat Dec 2021 #52
It's true Sanity Claws Dec 2021 #2
She's right. The court gave itself that power in Marbury v. Madison. Ocelot II Dec 2021 #3
Well, Marbury is the obvious rebuttal to the lawyer's point. sl8 Dec 2021 #5
I think he was suggesting that a point that supports Roe v. Wade Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #7
Yes, exactly. sl8 Dec 2021 #11
Including a Senate Majority or Minority leader Historic NY Dec 2021 #35
Or when it involves the electoral college. BComplex Dec 2021 #37
So what is the final word on legal issues? The voters? Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #6
It boggles the mind, doesn't it? Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #8
Yep. Our democracy is slipping away. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #9
Repubs do NOT want a vote of the people on this one. A very clear majority want abortion legal. nt albacore Dec 2021 #10
We are heading for minority rule. "We the people" is a fading concept. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #12
At the outset, "We the people" meant "We, the white, male land-owners" thesquanderer Dec 2021 #31
Yep, going back to the 1700's. All progress being wiped out. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #33
"Heading for???" evolves Dec 2021 #39
Yep. You are right. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #40
right Cosmocat Dec 2021 #55
What the people want doesn't matter much if republicans get to overturn elections. n/t rainin Dec 2021 #29
The GOP doesn't care what the people want on any issue. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #45
Not always mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #13
Right, so we are back to the idea the Supreme Court is the final word. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #14
Can a Supreme Court decision be appealed to Joe Manchin? gab13by13 Dec 2021 #15
Yes it makes sense to let the ruler of the universe have the final word. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #16
LOL! Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #23
The Chief Executive can enforce a SCOTUS decision as they see fit. n/t MarcA Dec 2021 #34
Speaking of voters: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #18
The GOP rigs the votes, so I guess the GOP has the final say in all matters. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #20
Dear god... Volaris Dec 2021 #25
Scott Stewart, the lawyer representing Mississippi, was at the center of a 2017 abortion controversy mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #32
OMG, I remember that case. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #49
Definitely the voters. But only if there is a secure and fair election process. Otherwise it is KPN Dec 2021 #36
The Cons love "tradition" because it protects White Male privilege. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #17
I disagree. Kinda like they are the fiscal responsible or Christian, or pro life.... LizBeth Dec 2021 #22
I don't see the Cons working to reduce White Male privilege or raise other other people. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #28
Nor do I. You said they like traditional and I disagree. They will use it for white and male and LizBeth Dec 2021 #30
That is an interesting statement. Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #24
I see so many knock-ons happening if Roe is invalidated. slightlv Dec 2021 #41
fine point - they DEFINE tradition Cosmocat Dec 2021 #56
Sonia. nt Carlitos Brigante Dec 2021 #19
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Dec 2021 #21
Stewart Fell Into The Trap DallasNE Dec 2021 #26
Masterful. Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #27
IMHO if abortion is ever prohibited, that will be the end of the GQP. lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #38
They have indeed run their campaigns on it as a Captain Zero Dec 2021 #51
Exactly. The young vote will finally turnout against this religious minority. lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #53
I keep hearing this, but I am going to point out something unpopular maxrandb Dec 2021 #54
Roe is dead. AverageOldGuy Dec 2021 #43
Which gives us license, if we lose, to label the case "wrongly decided" bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #46
+1 Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #47
I suppose blue states could ignore it... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Dec 2021 #50
If we forced them to tie federal funds to handle the childcare costs for women Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #57
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