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harumph

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24. Who knows if he's telling the truth - BUT it's absolutely a possibility.

Thu Dec 2, 2021, 09:27 PM

Dec 2021

Trigger (internal) mechanism could've been worn. I had an old reproduction navy colt single action that you would
cock and it would hold temporarily - but it then would go hammer down unexpectedly. Obviously, I no longer use it.

If it was a single action revolver and it was cocked already, just handling it might cause the hammer to strike. I know some have suggested this... and I still consider it far fetched - but IMO, he may have been set up.

The armorer is ultimately responsible for making sure any guns are in excellent working order. I'm sure an
inspection of the gun will help clear things up. If the gun internals were worn - this is on the armorer
b/c there would be no reasonable expectation that it (1) was malfunctioning and (2) held a live round.

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Alec Baldwin Should Just Keep His Mouth Shut.... [View all] global1 Dec 2021 OP

I'm sure he's being advised by lawyers FakeNoose Dec 2021 #1

He's got conflicting interests though. Calista241 Dec 2021 #58

I'd bet all his lawyers are advising against talking to reporters. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2021 #81

I don't know why, but PXR-5 Dec 2021 #2

Perhaps he meant to say he didn't intentionally pull the trigger. sop Dec 2021 #3

The malleability of memory is amazing. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #4

Why would anyone with half a brain cock the hammer if he isn't going to fire the weapon? marie999 Dec 2021 #25

Perhaps rehearsing for a scene that included a Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #27

He was directed to do so and he was told it was a cold gun SYFROYH Dec 2021 #35

If a single action revolver is fully cocked, you have to pull the trigger to drop the hammer. rsdsharp Dec 2021 #41

If the hammer goes past half-cock, right? SYFROYH Dec 2021 #52

Yes. Half cock is used to allow the cylinder to rotate freely rsdsharp Dec 2021 #61

Do all guns have a loop around the trigger? Did this one? taxi Dec 2021 #5

Pretty much all modern firearms have a trigger guard. sop Dec 2021 #6

The movie was a period piece. I don't know if the gun had a trigger guard or not. 11 Bravo Dec 2021 #9

Are you saying this one had a guard? taxi Dec 2021 #10

Colt SAA revolvers (the typical Western six-shooter used in movies) have trigger guards. sop Dec 2021 #30

He dropped the hammer DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #31

Oh, I remember seeing those. taxi Dec 2021 #34

You can't drop the hammer without pulling the trigger. Straw Man Dec 2021 #51

Uh huh DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #53

It was not a modern firearm. LisaL Dec 2021 #12

Firearms from that period, specifically Colt Single Action Army revolvers, have trigger guards. sop Dec 2021 #15

Were the trigger guards of the time fastened by taxi Dec 2021 #16

The trigger guards on Colt SAA revolvers were/are attached to the frames by a series of screws. sop Dec 2021 #22

To fire a pistol without squeezing the trigger is quite possible taxi Dec 2021 #29

The gun wouldn't fire unless the hammer was fully cocked. sop Dec 2021 #37

Yea, the OP was having a problem with him saying he didn't pull the trigger taxi Dec 2021 #40

The handgun was a revolver, not a pistol. PTWB Dec 2021 #38

Thanks taxi Dec 2021 #42

Trigger guard has NOTHING to do with it DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #33

I did hear on one of the talk shows last night that it was a modern model of the old style gun. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #65

... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #55

Except the assistant director corroborates his account saying gldstwmn Dec 2021 #64

... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #67

See post 60. It's possible for the trigger not to have been pulled. gldstwmn Dec 2021 #68

... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #69

It is possible. Archae Dec 2021 #7

Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #11

There's also this, Beagles.. Cha Dec 2021 #45

Thanks Cha MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #48

That's true, if you slam the bolt home with a lot of force, the round could discharge. sop Dec 2021 #14

Happened to me once with some cheap Russian ammo NickB79 Dec 2021 #32

Agree Faux pas Dec 2021 #8

The Assistant director of the movie confirmed he did not pull the trigger Bev54 Dec 2021 #13

I read that, too Deuxcents Dec 2021 #19

Yep. Assistant Director said that Baldwin didn't pull the trigger. LisaL Dec 2021 #28

TY for this, LisaL Cha Dec 2021 #44

How would he know? former9thward Dec 2021 #72

I'd think many people are looking at the director at any given time. Torchlight Dec 2021 #73

Baldwin was not the director. former9thward Dec 2021 #74

Does not deny people look at him while on set. Torchlight Dec 2021 #75

And they are looking at his exact placement of his finger at that exact time? former9thward Dec 2021 #76

Rational people notice many things and many details. Torchlight Dec 2021 #77

Baldwin has been sued by at least two people. former9thward Dec 2021 #78

Many people have been sued by many other. Torchlight Dec 2021 #79

I don't care what you think. Ellipsis Dec 2021 #17

+1! Cha Dec 2021 #46

I tend to believe him Zeitghost Dec 2021 #18

Well, the pistol did go off and he was pointing it toward people. Hoyt Dec 2021 #20

Was it sabotage? Texasgal Dec 2021 #21

The armorer on the set had very little experience. LisaL Dec 2021 #26

Wasn't there talk about that gun "misfiring" earlier? Patterson Dec 2021 #23

Who knows if he's telling the truth - BUT it's absolutely a possibility. harumph Dec 2021 #24

His story makes sense to me Doc Sportello Dec 2021 #36

+1 luckone Dec 2021 #39

Yep, this is what I thought too ... Series of tragedies uponit7771 Dec 2021 #54

I'd like to know how much, if any, training he got on gun safety. Kaleva Dec 2021 #84

You will Karma13612 Dec 2021 #43

Good to know.. TY! Cha Dec 2021 #47

You are welcome! Nt Karma13612 Dec 2021 #70

I'll look for it to be posted online MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #49

I don't even like the dude but leave him alone. Lunabell Dec 2021 #50

I still empathize but Sunsky Dec 2021 #56

Am I totally off my rocker? hamsterjill Dec 2021 #57

They'd have to know that Baldwin didn't follow basic gun safety rules Kaleva Dec 2021 #85

I like him but I agree he should not have done that interview ecstatic Dec 2021 #59

It's possible to discharge a firearm without squeezing the trigger krispos42 Dec 2021 #60

Oh that's clever. If more people checked their guns that way. Who knows, maybe fewer Carlitos Brigante Dec 2021 #66

100% correct. All I can do is cringe. librechik Dec 2021 #62

I knew that interview was going to be a mistake. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #63

The Gus Grissom Defense lame54 Dec 2021 #71

He might believe he didn't do it. xmas74 Dec 2021 #80

I agree he should not have done the interview Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2021 #82

Hopefully Baldwin has learned that guns are dangerous and basic safety rules must be followed Kaleva Dec 2021 #83