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13. Very fine people

Fri Dec 3, 2021, 03:10 PM

Dec 2021

https://nypost.com/2021/12/03/ethan-crumbleys-parents-had-their-own-run-ins-with-law-in-florida/

Parents of Michigan high school gunman Ethan Crumbley had their own run-ins with law
By Emily Crane and Yaron Steinbuch

According to online records in Duval County, Florida, James and Jennifer Crumbley were charged with DUI on Feb. 12, 2005, pleaded no contest and were fined $652 each.

James was also busted by the Atlantic Beach Police Department for driving with a suspended license and having an improper tag. He paid a fine of more than $200.

A few years earlier in 2003, Jennifer was accused of writing a worthless check for $150, but the misdemeanor case was later dismissed. She committed the same offense in 2004 and was fined $240, according to the records.

Meanwhile, James also got embroiled in legal trouble over child-support payments to his ex-wife, with whom he shares 18-year-old son Eli, Ethan’s half-brother, the Daily Beast reported.

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"Oxford officials knew shooting suspect searched online for ammo, made drawings": [View all] tblue37 Dec 2021 OP

This kid wrote "help me" the day he shot people. What a failure of response. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #1

No kidding. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #6

It's devastating. He's sitting there literally begging for help. And gets nothing. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #11

Yes, I agree. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #12

Its almost like they wanted to get rid of him, and arranged for his murder or jail.. spike jones Dec 2021 #50

"Begging" is a subjective interpretation. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #19

"The thoughts won't stop, help me," doesn't seem like something someone would share casually. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #20

Article doesn't quote him saying "help me", does it? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #25

Other articles have. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #33

Yes, it was in many reports today. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #60

I did not realize the level of ineptitude taxi Dec 2021 #72

Seriously. Our mental health care in the U.S. is nonexistent. yardwork Dec 2021 #17

Intrusive thoughts, he couldn't stop them, hoped someone Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #23

It's heartbreaking. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #45

Male schizophrenia may not be a surprise here. Sympthsical Dec 2021 #44

I think I heard on TV that the parents insisted the child be sent back to the classroom Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #2

Yeah, and during the shooting his mom texted, "Ethan, don't do it." tblue37 Dec 2021 #3

Mom sent the "I'm not mad at you" text. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #4

Corrected. Thanks. tblue37 Dec 2021 #9

Right, the crime is fine, just don't get caught. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #10

The "... not to get caught" remark was the most disturbing MarcA Dec 2021 #38

We're they still at the school when he started shooting? boston bean Dec 2021 #5

No. Apparently the dad headed home from work when he heard news about the shooting. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #8

No, they had left iemanja Dec 2021 #47

Re: Searching online for ammo moondust Dec 2021 #7

A violent, mentally ill son and they bought him a gun and encouraged him to buy ammo. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #15

Was the handgun purchased FOR him? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #21

As a present. LisaL Dec 2021 #26

He's fucking FOURTEEN. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #28

Ima guess your high school or junior high didn't have a shooting team Effete Snob Dec 2021 #34

I went to an Arts High School. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #36

Nope. I grew up in a socially evolved urban setting. Guns were hunters. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #64

I thought that is what I heard at the prosecutor's presser. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #29

He posted his present on social media in his hand so OK we know the parents were not going to do luckone Dec 2021 #41

Prosecutor says gun was taken from parents' bedroom Effete Snob Dec 2021 #24

Mom called the gun a "Christmas present" for the son. LisaL Dec 2021 #27

Okay, here's a link Effete Snob Dec 2021 #31

I thought I heard it said that the gun was purchased for the son. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #32

yup Effete Snob Dec 2021 #35

For god's sake. Makes me ill. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #37

Very fine people dalton99a Dec 2021 #13

They both got DUI's on the same day? underpants Dec 2021 #39

This appears to point fingers at the school. Don't. Grins Dec 2021 #76

The parents and the kids should get life in prison. roamer65 Dec 2021 #14

He is being tried as an adult. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #16

+1000 roamer65 Dec 2021 #18

Man 2 carries a sentence of 15 years max in MI maxsolomon Dec 2021 #22

The kid may well , but I doubt very much that involuntary manslaughter charges can result in life Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #30

15 years is the max, I think. tblue37 Dec 2021 #42

IF they were all up on murder and IF I were a juror... roamer65 Dec 2021 #43

You'd sentence a 15 year old child to death? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #65

This one I would. roamer65 Dec 2021 #75

They met with kid and parents, didn't search his bag and sent him back to class? brush Dec 2021 #40

Superintendent, principal and social worker should all be looking for new lines of work Squaredeal Dec 2021 #46

+1, I was wondering why the hell the school didn't send his ass home for doing all what he did ..... uponit7771 Dec 2021 #52

I wonder if they didn't search his bag because of white people syndrome. Lonestarblue Dec 2021 #49

are they legally allowed to search his bag? that would be my question. But they should have sent demigoddess Dec 2021 #51

You make a great point...the assumption by some that white people couldn't possibly... brush Dec 2021 #54

... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #58

so many red flags. IcyPeas Dec 2021 #48

The school saw the problem but didnt act as if he were a real threat. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #53

They did call the parents in that day for an immediate meeting iemanja Dec 2021 #55

That kid should have been searched malaise Dec 2021 #56

It was the day OF the shooting that they drawing was found. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #68

Those words "the thoughts won't stop" are significant. MoonRiver Dec 2021 #57

Thoughts are not the same as voices. LisaL Dec 2021 #59

If they're in your head they are. MoonRiver Dec 2021 #62

Where did he get the ammo? taxi Dec 2021 #61

They bought the ammo with the gun, most likely. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #66

😢😢😢😢 live love laugh Dec 2021 #63

The school fucked up too. BradAllison Dec 2021 #67

Parents never told the school that the kid had access to firearms. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #69

His parents essentially talked them out of punishing him immediately BradAllison Dec 2021 #70

Was the drawing itself punishable? Or the ammo search? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #71

Sounds like they called the shots BradAllison Dec 2021 #73

I agree, but I don't know what their rules are. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #74