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57. Those words "the thoughts won't stop" are significant.

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:35 PM

Dec 2021

That kid could have childhood schizophrenia, and everybody ignored the warning signs.

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"Oxford officials knew shooting suspect searched online for ammo, made drawings": [View all] tblue37 Dec 2021 OP

This kid wrote "help me" the day he shot people. What a failure of response. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #1

No kidding. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #6

It's devastating. He's sitting there literally begging for help. And gets nothing. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #11

Yes, I agree. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #12

Its almost like they wanted to get rid of him, and arranged for his murder or jail.. spike jones Dec 2021 #50

"Begging" is a subjective interpretation. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #19

"The thoughts won't stop, help me," doesn't seem like something someone would share casually. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #20

Article doesn't quote him saying "help me", does it? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #25

Other articles have. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #33

Yes, it was in many reports today. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #60

I did not realize the level of ineptitude taxi Dec 2021 #72

Seriously. Our mental health care in the U.S. is nonexistent. yardwork Dec 2021 #17

Intrusive thoughts, he couldn't stop them, hoped someone Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #23

It's heartbreaking. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #45

Male schizophrenia may not be a surprise here. Sympthsical Dec 2021 #44

I think I heard on TV that the parents insisted the child be sent back to the classroom Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #2

Yeah, and during the shooting his mom texted, "Ethan, don't do it." tblue37 Dec 2021 #3

Mom sent the "I'm not mad at you" text. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #4

Corrected. Thanks. tblue37 Dec 2021 #9

Right, the crime is fine, just don't get caught. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #10

The "... not to get caught" remark was the most disturbing MarcA Dec 2021 #38

We're they still at the school when he started shooting? boston bean Dec 2021 #5

No. Apparently the dad headed home from work when he heard news about the shooting. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #8

No, they had left iemanja Dec 2021 #47

Re: Searching online for ammo moondust Dec 2021 #7

A violent, mentally ill son and they bought him a gun and encouraged him to buy ammo. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #15

Was the handgun purchased FOR him? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #21

As a present. LisaL Dec 2021 #26

He's fucking FOURTEEN. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #28

Ima guess your high school or junior high didn't have a shooting team Effete Snob Dec 2021 #34

I went to an Arts High School. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #36

Nope. I grew up in a socially evolved urban setting. Guns were hunters. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #64

I thought that is what I heard at the prosecutor's presser. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #29

He posted his present on social media in his hand so OK we know the parents were not going to do luckone Dec 2021 #41

Prosecutor says gun was taken from parents' bedroom Effete Snob Dec 2021 #24

Mom called the gun a "Christmas present" for the son. LisaL Dec 2021 #27

Okay, here's a link Effete Snob Dec 2021 #31

I thought I heard it said that the gun was purchased for the son. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #32

yup Effete Snob Dec 2021 #35

For god's sake. Makes me ill. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #37

Very fine people dalton99a Dec 2021 #13

They both got DUI's on the same day? underpants Dec 2021 #39

This appears to point fingers at the school. Don't. Grins Dec 2021 #76

The parents and the kids should get life in prison. roamer65 Dec 2021 #14

He is being tried as an adult. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #16

+1000 roamer65 Dec 2021 #18

Man 2 carries a sentence of 15 years max in MI maxsolomon Dec 2021 #22

The kid may well , but I doubt very much that involuntary manslaughter charges can result in life Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #30

15 years is the max, I think. tblue37 Dec 2021 #42

IF they were all up on murder and IF I were a juror... roamer65 Dec 2021 #43

You'd sentence a 15 year old child to death? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #65

This one I would. roamer65 Dec 2021 #75

They met with kid and parents, didn't search his bag and sent him back to class? brush Dec 2021 #40

Superintendent, principal and social worker should all be looking for new lines of work Squaredeal Dec 2021 #46

+1, I was wondering why the hell the school didn't send his ass home for doing all what he did ..... uponit7771 Dec 2021 #52

I wonder if they didn't search his bag because of white people syndrome. Lonestarblue Dec 2021 #49

are they legally allowed to search his bag? that would be my question. But they should have sent demigoddess Dec 2021 #51

You make a great point...the assumption by some that white people couldn't possibly... brush Dec 2021 #54

... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #58

so many red flags. IcyPeas Dec 2021 #48

The school saw the problem but didnt act as if he were a real threat. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #53

They did call the parents in that day for an immediate meeting iemanja Dec 2021 #55

That kid should have been searched malaise Dec 2021 #56

It was the day OF the shooting that they drawing was found. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #68

Those words "the thoughts won't stop" are significant. MoonRiver Dec 2021 #57

Thoughts are not the same as voices. LisaL Dec 2021 #59

If they're in your head they are. MoonRiver Dec 2021 #62

Where did he get the ammo? taxi Dec 2021 #61

They bought the ammo with the gun, most likely. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #66

😢😢😢😢 live love laugh Dec 2021 #63

The school fucked up too. BradAllison Dec 2021 #67

Parents never told the school that the kid had access to firearms. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #69

His parents essentially talked them out of punishing him immediately BradAllison Dec 2021 #70

Was the drawing itself punishable? Or the ammo search? maxsolomon Dec 2021 #71

Sounds like they called the shots BradAllison Dec 2021 #73

I agree, but I don't know what their rules are. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #74