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Ocelot II

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57. Exactly right. I think it's fair to say that there was probably some kind of family dysfunction

Sat Dec 4, 2021, 06:53 PM

Dec 2021

but beyond that we don't know what motivated any of them, and we won't know until there is a trial or other adjudication, if then. It's too easy to assume things but we shouldn't do that.

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My thought about the Crumbleys. [View all] AngryOldDem Dec 2021 OP

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You're not serious. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #8

Yes. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #28

+1 H2O Man Dec 2021 #37

Ditto ... +2 KPN Dec 2021 #47

Nonsense. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #9

That's a stretch PJMcK Dec 2021 #11

Don't think that Rebl2 Dec 2021 #23

I'm just thinking when does gross negligence become intentional Walleye Dec 2021 #44

Not in this case. KPN Dec 2021 #49

Well I really do not understand the gun loving mentality of course I doubt it now but at the time Walleye Dec 2021 #54

No. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #24

True that is the much more likely scenario. But after seeing that drawing I don't know Walleye Dec 2021 #42

His mother's text DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #27

Of course the school's at fault! Bourgeois Liberal Dec 2021 #43

Welcome to DU panader0 Dec 2021 #63

The school official who allowed him to stay at school should be fired. 58Sunliner Dec 2021 #69

I agree. They are escape artists in that way. taxi Dec 2021 #56

Not a doubt in your mind? NH Ethylene Dec 2021 #40

Well I don't necessarily mean they wanted kids killed they just wanted him to shoot Walleye Dec 2021 #41

Highly unlikely. Straw Man Dec 2021 #60

I wouldn't be surprised if they thought their kid would be viewed as a hero like Rittenhouse, jalan48 Dec 2021 #2

Their actions since have been truly mindboggling. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #3

There seems to be plenty explanations for ForgedCrank Dec 2021 #61

Yeah, they've got something to hide, and now it's going to come out. Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #68

Then they can meet the Orange God lame54 Dec 2021 #5

My fear also. fierywoman Dec 2021 #6

Nonsense. Get real. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #10

They don't seem like the kind of people who do much planning ahead Bucky Dec 2021 #26

Hard to say what their actual intent was, if there even was one, Ocelot II Dec 2021 #4

+1. The problem was long festering, didn't happen in two weeks after Rittenhouse. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #12

Homicidal thoughts in teens is not that infrequent. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #13

Good observations. They may also just have been in full denial KPN Dec 2021 #52

It does seem like given the circumstances somebody was bound to get shot eventually Walleye Dec 2021 #55

This is my take too. joshcryer Dec 2021 #67

I think the prosecutor is going to pursue a terrorism charge. hamsterjill Dec 2021 #7

Agree with you, 100% (nt) Paladin Dec 2021 #14

At a minimum they realize that once all the facts are known, relatives give depositions etc Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #15

True. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #18

I've been thinking the same. yardwork Dec 2021 #16

Dammit! Now I have to add "Crumley" to my dead word list. Iggo Dec 2021 #17

Add Crumbley... El Supremo Dec 2021 #21

Already there. Iggo Dec 2021 #35

But that's not how it's spelled. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #29

I think you missed the point. Iggo Dec 2021 #34

Ah, gotcha. All apologies. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #30

I suspect that Ethan was abused vlyons Dec 2021 #19

I hear you. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #25

Well, obviously planning to run out on their kid... AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #38

Fucked up family dalton99a Dec 2021 #20

Depraved indifference to both the child and the school. Don't know if it meets the legal threshold. 58Sunliner Dec 2021 #22

I agree. Looking forward to hearing a number of bad parenting gems to come out. Bucky Dec 2021 #31

If you are correct, that may be grounds to move the murder charge to juvenile court. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2021 #32

Michigan Law DownriverDem Dec 2021 #33

They may not have wanted it to specifically go down like this... paleotn Dec 2021 #36

Oh, I think it's beyond that relayerbob Dec 2021 #39

As for the parents' intent/culpability, why a pistol? 70sEraVet Dec 2021 #45

It was a semi-automatic. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #46

They cannot according to the news legal expert arlyellowdog Dec 2021 #50

Yes, and why didn't they wait until Christmas to give it to him if it truly was a gift? llmart Dec 2021 #51

There is a range of reasons here ForgedCrank Dec 2021 #53

Exactly right. I think it's fair to say that there was probably some kind of family dysfunction Ocelot II Dec 2021 #57

I agree about the 'charging the kid as an adult'. 70sEraVet Dec 2021 #58

I find this manner of thinking to ForgedCrank Dec 2021 #48

The mom texted him: "Don't do it." Patterson Dec 2021 #59

Maybe they were hoping the kid would kill himself ThoughtCriminal Dec 2021 #64

I had a similar line of thought this morning... Sogo Dec 2021 #65

I'd have to see some evidence for this. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #66

This wasn't worth an OP, but the other woman who previously had a son by the father weighed in: Rhiannon12866 Dec 2021 #70