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Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
29. Inquiring minds want to know this as well!
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 01:27 AM
Dec 2021

We push policies that would help everybody in the country, including rural voters and get attacked and smeared for them by Republicans and then a lot of rural voters hate us and vote Republican based on the lies and smears. It’s hard to know what else to do. I can’t help but feel that when I read things like this what we are really being asked to do is pander to some of their racist or bigoted beliefs or other views that are harmful to other people or that they just think we should elevate their concerns and priorities over other people’s, which, of course what Republicans are always willing to do, hence why they usually keep winning their votes (unless they actually support Republican “policies” in which case, again, how do we win them over without just becoming Republican-lite ourselves?)

Personally, I think it's the rural folks who need to spend more time in the cities VMA131Marine Dec 2021 #1
You're welcome to tell them that... brooklynite Dec 2021 #2
We witness this very thing even here. ForgedCrank Dec 2021 #10
More care should be given into how we address folks Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #18
Thanks, and sorry. elleng Dec 2021 #19
I totally agree. nt Raine Dec 2021 #39
Agree Freddie Dec 2021 #55
I see that here on DU, but fortunately not within the official party LeftInTX Dec 2021 #108
I am so with you brother GusBob Dec 2021 #74
The people running for office don't do it though treestar Dec 2021 #93
I'm sorry that you experienced that SunImp Dec 2021 #158
I don't think it's you, personally, that people have problems with. Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #163
This. eppur_se_muova Dec 2021 #5
Useful? elleng Dec 2021 #6
Not at all GusBob Dec 2021 #79
We lost some poor minority urban areas in 2020 LeftInTX Dec 2021 #110
You can't win a congressional majorities solely on urban votes Ex Lurker Dec 2021 #13
Our you were born with the original sin of racism is not much better. cinematicdiversions Dec 2021 #35
I think that starting some scuttlebutt taxi Dec 2021 #144
THIS. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #34
Yes, and it's not as if nobody from small cities and towns across the country move betsuni Dec 2021 #40
Looking at voting patterns, it undeniable that cities tend to support Democrats and small Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #72
Some of us DashOneBravo Dec 2021 #125
We're asking for their VOTES.. Cha Dec 2021 #36
Yep empedocles Dec 2021 #63
We need to pass whatever version of Build Back Better we can and pass the defense bill ... get Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #73
The Republicans would do worse treestar Dec 2021 #97
+1 -K&R onetexan Dec 2021 #56
It's hard not to have to head into a city periodically Amishman Dec 2021 #111
The wood buring stove regulations are a big deal here ripcord Dec 2021 #149
Agree 100% nt RFCalifornia Dec 2021 #201
'The core problem is a familiar one -- Democrats are out of touch with the needs of the ordinary vote elleng Dec 2021 #3
And Biden's agenda isn't good for the entire nation? nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #20
'The entire nation' is made up as #9 depicts. elleng Dec 2021 #25
Biden's agenda is sitting in Congress going nowhere while the progessives demand Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #80
I really hate how BBB has got bogged down Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #23
Ditto, but, as shown just in this thread, there is a fair amount of 'disarray.' elleng Dec 2021 #26
Of what widespread disarray do you speak? Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #28
About a third of the posts say yes, there is a problem, what do we do about it? Ex Lurker Dec 2021 #37
When Wendy Davis was talking about her abortion when she ran for governor of Texas LeftInTX Dec 2021 #44
I agree, downplay some of these issues Freddie Dec 2021 #51
I only see that on DU. LeftInTX Dec 2021 #115
hey here's a novel idea inthewind21 Dec 2021 #196
It is fucking ridiculous. Both sides need to get it done and stop the nonsense. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #81
Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #123
The problem with Manchin and Sinema, Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #148
This "goal-post" moving is getting extremely tiring Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #152
The infrastructure and social spending bills are DEMOCRATIC... Grins Dec 2021 #31
+1 betsuni Dec 2021 #33
That is a ridiculous statement. We will lose the midterm for sure and badly if we don't pass Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #82
Good empedocles Dec 2021 #61
Republicans are in touch? treestar Dec 2021 #98
It's not that they're in touch. They're pandering to the emotions. haele Dec 2021 #106
Nothing Democrats can do to get rural voters, they're a cult. dem4decades Dec 2021 #4
Yes. Rural folks have been subjected to focused, intensive, continuous Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2021 #60
It isn't just that. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #66
Good thing banning semi-automatic weapons is a pipe dream. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #161
Funny I'm on a Fishing website, lots of rural folks on it, they bitch and moan about Democtrats and dem4decades Dec 2021 #69
If rural Americans are such monsters GusBob Dec 2021 #92
Wasn't that in the preTrump era? dem4decades Dec 2021 #132
Thanks. Good post. mountain grammy Dec 2021 #203
If every urban minority voted, we would not have to worry about rural votes LeftInTX Dec 2021 #117
"They" "Them" KentuckyWoman Dec 2021 #138
Rural folks don't like access to health care? gratuitous Dec 2021 #7
Even if true, " coastal, overly educated, elitist, judgmental, socialist," better than rube Hoyt Dec 2021 #8
"Overly educated" isn't even a real thing. Maybe they like their doctors "under educated". nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #17
+1000 llmart Dec 2021 #103
Amazing Hekate Dec 2021 #9
Thank You ! nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #12
Yep. Coastal elites who can only win in urban areas GusBob Dec 2021 #89
Trump is a coastal elite. Mariana Dec 2021 #102
Trump is an enigma..LOL LeftInTX Dec 2021 #113
No he's not, He's a coastal elite asshole who appeals to other assholes or lesser angels of huma uponit7771 Dec 2021 #136
Exactly. Trump of New York played into rural xtian desire radius777 Dec 2021 #206
+a gazillion! llmart Dec 2021 #104
Um, this Democrat IS an ordinary voter. I'm tired of this Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #11
Or California Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #14
That would make everything screech to a halt in hours. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #15
Yep Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #24
They're only 1/4 of the population, but Freddie Dec 2021 #52
Trump won PA in the rural areas and it does matter. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #83
The author doesn't understand why people vote Republican, doesn't understand betsuni Dec 2021 #16
The former Democratic Governor of Montana doesn't understand the Democratic Party..... brooklynite Dec 2021 #21
How are Democrats "out of touch with the needs of the ordinary voter"? betsuni Dec 2021 #27
Inquiring minds want to know this as well! Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #29
Things that drive rural voters nuts: LeftInTX Dec 2021 #41
So, basically abandon a lot of the environmentalist stuff? Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #127
Common sense...not woo LeftInTX Dec 2021 #129
I agree it should be backed by good science Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #130
Yes, our horticulture agent is one of the smartest ag guys I know (at least in ag LOL) LeftInTX Dec 2021 #131
"We have eliminated an herbicide". Mariana Dec 2021 #167
Round Up will no longer contain Glyphosate LeftInTX Dec 2021 #175
One company stopped using it in one brand of products. BFD. Mariana Dec 2021 #182
The Democratic base does not win elections LeftInTX Dec 2021 #38
The working class is the Democratic base. betsuni Dec 2021 #45
I thought it was people who voted in Democratic Primaries? LeftInTX Dec 2021 #47
... betsuni Dec 2021 #49
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #140
Black voters (ie, the Dem base) in big cities like Milwaukee, Detroit, Philly radius777 Dec 2021 #207
That has changed FelineOverlord Dec 2021 #68
"The Democratic base aren't rural white people" ... Yep and it's hard to get that out of people's he uponit7771 Dec 2021 #139
Adept response empedocles Dec 2021 #64
A Democrat who wins rural elections GusBob Dec 2021 #90
Bullock is as clueless about Dems as Christie is about Repubs. radius777 Dec 2021 #151
I don't think so. 'I Was the Governor of Montana.' elleng Dec 2021 #22
Sure Zeitghost Dec 2021 #126
A two-term Dem governor doesn't understand Dems? sir pball Dec 2021 #177
Sure, I'd love to live in the country ymetca Dec 2021 #30
And their votes count for more than ours Freddie Dec 2021 #57
New York City has more people than 37 states. Kid Berwyn Dec 2021 #32
Congressional District Maps by Population shows why Gov Bullock cant be ignored andym Dec 2021 #42
That doesn't add up at all. R's rule by winning the popular minority. Dems win popular majority ffr Dec 2021 #43
+1 betsuni Dec 2021 #46
Winning the majority of votes does not always mean winning elections Freddie Dec 2021 #58
Democrats still do not understand the efficacy of voter suppression voter denial and vote nullificat uponit7771 Dec 2021 #141
We also have a similar issue with low income minority voters LeftInTX Dec 2021 #48
Wracking up large majorities in urban and areas doesn't Tomconroy Dec 2021 #50
He *was* the governor of Montana - Who's governor now? Greg Gianforte... ck4829 Dec 2021 #53
+1. dalton99a Dec 2021 #116
Why are they voting for people like Gianforte and Trump ? JI7 Dec 2021 #54
this is a real message to build party untiy around.......NOT: Celerity Dec 2021 #59
Exactly mountain grammy Dec 2021 #204
I live in rural red Virginia. phylny Dec 2021 #62
Of some people I know who have a farm - seems to be an identity thing. empedocles Dec 2021 #65
Because of the force multiplier effect that comes from political control in the US, Celerity Dec 2021 #198
The problem isn't "democrats not reaching out". rownesheck Dec 2021 #67
That is why they gerrymander Keepthesoulalive Dec 2021 #70
This all circles back to having no counterpart to conservative media JHB Dec 2021 #71
+1. dalton99a Dec 2021 #114
LOL. Those morons would rather die than wear a mask or take a free vaccine Downtown Hound Dec 2021 #75
And we see people on DU say that Republicans are gonna lose because they died of Covid LeftInTX Dec 2021 #119
Rural voters find Democrats judgemental? malletgirl02 Dec 2021 #76
Our problem is not policies TheFarseer Dec 2021 #77
Yes and that is the point...time to stop arguing among ourselves and work something out. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #85
They will own the marijuana thing...It actually had a good chance of passing in Texas LeftInTX Dec 2021 #121
What exactly are we supposed to do Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #78
Send in people to campaign there...start a grass roots movement start with local government. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #87
I would love it if we could start winning in rural areas. Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #88
. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #84
Jon Tester is Senator from Montana GusBob Dec 2021 #86
I wonder how many rural DUers there are actually GusBob Dec 2021 #91
I was until I was 21. honest.abe Dec 2021 #99
I grew up in a township that had 17 people GusBob Dec 2021 #101
No doubt there are more assholes in the cities.. honest.abe Dec 2021 #147
I must be an asshole magnet GusBob Dec 2021 #185
My opinion of benefits will probably be different from yours.. honest.abe Dec 2021 #186
Yeah see GusBob Dec 2021 #191
As I said in a post upstream I grew up on a farm. honest.abe Dec 2021 #192
Like "Little House on the Prairie"! betsuni Dec 2021 #193
So we are not Nazis GusBob Dec 2021 #195
How is this type of disdain Casady1 Feb 2022 #209
I grew up in a rural area. llmart Dec 2021 #107
I live in a small town in a rural county Bettie Dec 2021 #133
If Steve Bullock has all the answers EarlG Dec 2021 #94
Maybe that's his point GusBob Dec 2021 #100
I dunno about that EarlG Dec 2021 #112
He lost because he is tagged as a Democrat GusBob Dec 2021 #170
But he won the Governor's race in 2016 EarlG Dec 2021 #188
Answer: what voters look for in a State race is different from a Senate race... brooklynite Dec 2021 #189
I don't know the answer GusBob Dec 2021 #190
I grew up on a rural farm and moved to an urban area because I wanted to experience more in life. honest.abe Dec 2021 #95
Rural voters vote for guns. They also equate Democrats DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #96
They equate Democrats with Satan. Mariana Dec 2021 #105
Yeah but evangelical churches are generally not huge DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #118
The majority of Christian voters overall cast their ballots for Trump in 2016. Mariana Dec 2021 #143
I not sure about these numbers DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #145
He still won the majority of Protestant Christians Mariana Dec 2021 #157
Evangelical churches and Southern Baptists DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #160
They are a plague. Mariana Dec 2021 #174
No. Double pre-destination is heresy DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #184
One challenge Democrats have with rural is physical outreach LeftInTX Dec 2021 #109
Only around 1/6th of the US population is rural (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Dec 2021 #120
The QTHUGS had a plan. 2020 When TFG gave huge payouts to farmers. bluestarone Dec 2021 #122
This is a prime example of decades long successful messaging by the right. 2 Meow Momma Dec 2021 #124
We need to stop the "climate change disaster" narrative LeftInTX Dec 2021 #128
rubbish Celerity Dec 2021 #134
I'm not pushing fracking, but it's not going away. There is not an easy answer LeftInTX Dec 2021 #142
Yes, go to where most voters aren't, counties and regions marinated in hate radio . . . hatrack Dec 2021 #135
Thank you for reinforcing Governor Bullock's point... brooklynite Dec 2021 #146
Do you live in a red state? Did you grow up in a small town, "Brooklynite"? hatrack Dec 2021 #202
So racism isn't a problem? ismnotwasm Dec 2021 #137
Yawn, another lame 'white guy at a diner' type of analysis radius777 Dec 2021 #150
Our pride be damned Philosophizing Fool Dec 2021 #153
Which parts of the Democratic Party Platform do you think should be changed Mariana Dec 2021 #171
What arrogance? What views need to be readjusted? What Democratic principles have left them behind? betsuni Dec 2021 #179
No Philosophizing Fool Dec 2021 #199
No. If I cannot see a problem and there are no examples of it, it doesn't exist. betsuni Dec 2021 #200
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #154
Other than the fact that you don't like his perspective on rural voters... brooklynite Dec 2021 #155
Care to post something that's not behind a paywall? traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #156
I generally find when people resort to personal attacks, they've given up discussing... brooklynite Dec 2021 #159
Biden is a mainstream liberal and well to the left of Bullock. radius777 Dec 2021 #208
Jews need to get out and talk to Nazis maxrandb Dec 2021 #162
What an ugly comment... brooklynite Dec 2021 #164
Native Americans, Hispanic Americans and African Americans are rural residents ya know GusBob Dec 2021 #183
How can you even be over educated? Poiuyt Dec 2021 #165
Evergreen tweet wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #166
In 2018, I met with Elissa Slotkin who was running for Congress in a suburban/rural district brooklynite Dec 2021 #168
I'm fine with "rural folks" but I am not fine with my vote being worth 1/40th of a Montanans' vote. Hekate Dec 2021 #169
If you want to change the voting system, you'll need a Constitutional Amendment... brooklynite Dec 2021 #173
I understand that very well Hekate Dec 2021 #178
Bingo ymetca Dec 2021 #180
Tired of catering to rural voters budkin Dec 2021 #172
We're not arguing that they're "better".... brooklynite Dec 2021 #181
It might be easier to listen to this dsc Dec 2021 #176
Last two and current Dem presidents weren't from upper class wealthy coastal elite backgrounds. betsuni Dec 2021 #187
The problem is the lack of a medium ibegurpard Dec 2021 #194
Third Way: "The Rural Vote with Cheri Bustos" brooklynite Dec 2021 #197
Wasn't Bullock recruited by the DSCC exactly Deminpenn Dec 2021 #205
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