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Hassin Bin Sober

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26. For those wondering how a black owner can make a white neighborhood a black neighborhood.
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 12:33 PM
Dec 2021

A black person sitting in the kitchen makes it a “black neighborhood.” At least according to that appraiser. Apparently.

Appraisers are supposed to be really careful about who they photograph while making the report. Iirc, they are supposed to be really careful about trying to NOT include people in their appraisal photos (I remember seeing notes in reports if this was unavoidable - on a busy street for example). This rule is there to avoid bias in the person reading the report. But it’s harder to avoid bias in this case when the person MAKING the report has a bias.

This appraiser may have thought, consciously or unconsciously, she was doing the lender “a favor” by “protecting” the bank.

Worse yet, the appraiser may have been under orders to look out for “the black” neighborhoods.

I’ve been in the consumer lending business my whole career. An old-timer auto lending guy told me they used to place a discrete “X” on the top of a black person’s credit application when they would send the application to the bank. Which didn’t make sense because the car dealer would be cutting their own throat by lessening the chance of obtaining a loan for their sale. But it happened anyway.

Even reading the story in the OP my pasty white ass is thinking this couldn’t happen. Then I talk through what little I know about the history of lending in this country and it’s TOTALLY plausible.

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I wish I could say I am surprised. iemanja Dec 2021 #1
:) You really should be. This nasty appraiser hung his own ass Hortensis Dec 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Dec 2021 #2
Two appraisals in the exact same neighborhood, same house, $500,000 difference. yardwork Dec 2021 #7
I don't need to read it again left-of-center2012 Dec 2021 #8
Of course you don't. yardwork Dec 2021 #11
People were willing to pay more if they thought it was owned by a white person JI7 Dec 2021 #9
it's nowhere near as scientific as they like to claim. mopinko Dec 2021 #10
Like what? yardwork Dec 2021 #12
couple things- condition and style. mopinko Dec 2021 #15
The exact same house, appraisals one month apart. yardwork Dec 2021 #17
nothing in the house changed, the appraiser did. mopinko Dec 2021 #18
My question is whether it was the exact same person doing the appraisal. Hugin Dec 2021 #21
no. it wasnt. mopinko Dec 2021 #22
Thanks for answering my question. Hugin Dec 2021 #23
i think it happened when i bought my house. mopinko Dec 2021 #24
I can see where that is evidence of systemic bias. Hugin Dec 2021 #25
when i 1st moved to the city, it was to a hood that was just flipping. mopinko Dec 2021 #27
Black neighborhood is overstating a bit Sympthsical Dec 2021 #16
yeah, a mixed hood, and you can see someone wanting to keep another black family out. mopinko Dec 2021 #19
No Racism erpowers Dec 2021 #3
There are at least two posters in this very thread who can't seem to see this. yardwork Dec 2021 #13
That is absolutely gross. And (white) people think red-lining doesn't exist any more. Hekate Dec 2021 #4
This is where the disconnect happens. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #5
K&R ck4829 Dec 2021 #6
This happens A LOT. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #14
Not surprising, actually. Real estate appraisals are, but should not be, MineralMan Dec 2021 #20
For those wondering how a black owner can make a white neighborhood a black neighborhood. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2021 #26
It seems it has to be more specific to owner than to neighborhood dsc Dec 2021 #29
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