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40. The myth that the Democratic base AND Republican voters are secretly democratic socialists

Wed Dec 8, 2021, 08:04 PM

Dec 2021

just waiting for a True Progressive candidate to vote for. Republican voters will join the Democratic base in class solidarity to fight the 1%. Purity test: slogans like Medicare for All and Green New Deal. Fail the test and it is forbidden to describe yourself as "progressive" -- you're a "centrist" "corporate Dem" beholden to wealthy donors/corporations, same economic policies as Republicans. The True Progressive runs against both party establishments.

They think that because Trump was anti-establishment, both left and right anti-establishment populism is the same and Trump voters will vote for a left populist candidate.

The Democratic Party must be punished for establishment/status quo/centrist/corporatist/wealthy elite candidates they rig primaries for (stopping at nothing to defeat True Progressives from helping the working class) and this is why the imaginary base stays home and Republican voters vote Republican.

It's nutty!

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Poor turnout by Democratic base voters ensured McAuliffe defeat in Virginia [View all] bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 OP

Occam's Razor, IMO, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #1

It doesn't matter what sort of candidate McAuliffe was...vote blue. Any GOP is a million times Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #4

It matters to the voters. PTWB Dec 2021 #18

It doesn't matter to *YOU* Act_of_Reparation Dec 2021 #53

True, but still very much a cautionary tale for the 2022 Midterms. Proves how bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #6

I notice people tend to project their own issues AZProgressive Dec 2021 #7

Carville is a washed-up, RW talking point-spewing has-been, living off swamp gas fumes from the 90's Celerity Dec 2021 #11

Ahhh..Larry Summers! BTW, how is that new "anti-woke" university that he's bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #13

Wow, I had forgotten that Summers was involved with that RW project. What a POS. Celerity Dec 2021 #16

Oh bullshit. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #17

Just curious. What was the turnout percentage in the Dem primary? (If you know). Doremus Dec 2021 #24

No, I don't right offhand, but... W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #59

McAuliffe WAS a BAD candidate. Tommymac Dec 2021 #25

Thank You. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #45

JMHO, but second acts generally don't Deminpenn Dec 2021 #28

We almost always do it to ourselves. We need to clog the polls every election. marble falls Dec 2021 #2

+1 nitpicker Dec 2021 #14

This does make more sense than the conventional wisdom AZProgressive Dec 2021 #3

Some still are. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #34

Not sure I'm 100% with this analysis, Calista241 Dec 2021 #5

Trumpkin also overperformed in tRump leaning counties south of Route 17 Best_man23 Dec 2021 #12

Democrats need to combat all the lies and fearmongering that the GQP have . ... Lovie777 Dec 2021 #8

Absolutely. Kid Berwyn Dec 2021 #9

People wanted schools open so they don't have to watch their kids JI7 Dec 2021 #10

He also told parents to stay out of education jimfields33 Dec 2021 #20

Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #26

Lol. You seriously haven't heard this after being one of the most active jimfields33 Dec 2021 #29

He didn't tell parents to stay out of education. Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #31

I just found out from the Moonie Times. Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #36

See 21 on this very thread. jimfields33 Dec 2021 #30

See 33 on this very thread. Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #35

Ahh-here it is from the Moonie Times: Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #33

Here it is from the Washington Post Caliman73 Dec 2021 #37

McAuliffe fell over himself when governor to please Dominion Energy Mysterian Dec 2021 #15

anti votes carry the day in the majority of off-season elections bigtree Dec 2021 #19

Got a link to that statistical info on off-season elections? Mysterian Dec 2021 #23

. bigtree Dec 2021 #27

Maybe. But I'm blaming messaging. Grins Dec 2021 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #22

Virginians voted Republican iemanja Dec 2021 #32

The myth that the Democratic base AND Republican voters are secretly democratic socialists betsuni Dec 2021 #40

Wrong!! That's not what "base" means. The Democratic BASE are the LOYAL voters who ALWAYS turn out... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #38

+1000 sheshe2 Dec 2021 #39

The base doesn't have to be "inspired" to turn out to vote. lapucelle Dec 2021 #41

Just as a personal note, I was in high school when Ronald Reagan came to power, bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #44

Yup. RobinA Dec 2021 #51

So is the base shrinking? leftstreet Dec 2021 #46

We win elections by appealing to the center, not the extremes. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #47

Exactly, the "base" is anywhere from 60-80% of Democrats, depending upon who is defining them.... George II Dec 2021 #50

Is it "center" to tell parents to stay out of school decisions? leftstreet Dec 2021 #54

He already covered this. But I'm sure you knew that too. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #55

I agree with your analysis LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #48

Selfish people who don't vote do not get the privilege of calling themselves the "base"... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #49

Brava! JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #56

Well said! treestar Dec 2021 #57

Who wrote this article? It's behind a pay wall so can't read the byline. George II Dec 2021 #42

Ed Kilgore is the author. It looks like there is a limited number of free articles bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #43

No. "The base" votes dependably. That's why they're called the base. Hortensis Dec 2021 #52

The last sentence. Yes. That. Indeed. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #58