NoShit....

[Celerity]

23. Now you are goalpost moving, as it is a carve-out that has been under discussion for months, not

a complete removal of it.

Very few are still holding out hope for a actual complete removal at this point, myself included.

There are more than 2 Democrats who are against removing the filibuster. Some of those are willing to go to a talking-filibuster.

Manchin shot down the 'talking filibuster' and multiple other options that would have the power to end the 60 vote requirement, almost 9 months ago.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142714005 Wed Mar 17, 2021,

Sen. Joe Manchin, the most conservative member of the Senate Democratic caucus, has spent the past couple of weeks doling out cryptic hints that he might be open to changing filibuster rules that currently allow the Republican minority to block most legislation unless a bill is supported by at least 60 senators.

On Wednesday, however, he appeared to shut the door on several ideas floated by proponents of filibuster reform within the Senate. Manchin’s latest move does not mean that filibuster reform is dead, but it does suggest that Democrats who wish to make it easier to enact legislation may struggle to come up with a strong package of reforms that will win Manchin’s support.

Earlier this month, Manchin told Meet the Press’s Chuck Todd that he’s open to making the filibuster “a little bit more painful” for the minority, and that he might be willing to make senators “stand there and talk” if they wish to maintain a filibuster. The West Virginia senator, in other words, appeared open to a so-called “talking filibuster,” where senators who wish to block legislation must speak continuously on the Senate floor in order to maintain a filibuster.

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And Manchin’s newly stated opposition to burden shifting — that is, moving to requiring 41 senators to sustain a filibuster instead of requiring 60 senators to break one — is a particularly significant blow to reform efforts. Burden shifting, combined with other reforms such as a talking filibuster, could have imposed very potent limits on the minority’s power to obstruct legislation.

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a month later

Sen. Joe Manchin Rules Out Support for Weakened Senate Filibuster

West Virginia Democrat calls for bipartisanship rather than rule changes

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sen-joe-manchin-rules-out-support-for-weakened-senate-filibuster-11617848294

WASHINGTON—Sen. Joe Manchin, a pivotal centrist, further closed the door on the prospect that he could support any move to end the filibuster in the Senate, a rule change that would allow his party to pass legislation with a simple majority rather than the 60 votes needed for most bills.

“I have said it before and will say it again to remove any shred of doubt: There is no circumstance in which I will vote to eliminate or weaken the filibuster,” he said in an opinion article posted on the Washington Post website Wednesday evening.

Mr. Manchin (D., W.Va.) and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D., Ariz.) have previously said they would block the party from eliminating the filibuster, even as pressure builds from party lawmakers and activists eager to advance their agenda on gun control, voting rights, immigration and the minimum wage, which have little support among Republicans.

Opinion: Joe Manchin: I will not vote to eliminate or weaken the filibuster

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/joe-manchin-filibuster-vote/2021/04/07/cdbd53c6-97da-11eb-a6d0-13d207aadb78_story.html