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71. "old enough to remember clean air" makes me wonder how old you are..

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:53 AM

Oct 2012

because, since the industrial revolution and the explosion in the burning of fossil fuels, clean air hasn't come easily. In fact, the air was so UNCLEAN in 1970, that a REPUBLICAN president signed the EPA into law. I was a teenager in the dirty air 60's. I was born in 1947, but cars were burning gas and homes and industries were burning coal, so I'm sure the air wasn't so clean then. Back to my original question; how old are you to be "old enough to remember clean air?"
My daughter was born in Denver in 1988. The city was under new mandates from the EPA to clean up the disgusting brown cloud.. and guess what? We did! It's not perfect but it's a whole lot cleaner. Now, at some point, my 24 year old daughter could say "I'm old enough to remember clean air," but only if we go down the Rmoney road, and we've all read "The Road."
Michael Moore, love him or hate him, he's right on this!

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Check out what Michael Moore has just posted on his FB page... [View all] Turborama Oct 2012 OP

I could really give a shit about what Michael Moore has to say right now. MADem Oct 2012 #1

There's one more debate to go. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #3

I think the only context for oil in a "Foreign Policy" debate will be in the context of WAR. MADem Oct 2012 #11

Wow. MM is fat? Fucking brilliant criticism. Way to link DirkGently Oct 2012 #53

Get over yourself--I wasn't linking to the article, I was linking to the PICTURE. MADem Oct 2012 #68

Oh boy. And Al Gore ate a sea bass, so Global Warming is a hoax, right? DirkGently Oct 2012 #128

Try to follow along. Michael Moore stole this "issue" from Al Gore. MADem Oct 2012 #130

+100 n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #226

He's been involved in this election from the start. savannah43 Oct 2012 #246

Yeah, sure he has--he's been all over twitter and facebook, gathering names! MADem Oct 2012 #260

+1 politicasista Oct 2012 #261

Exactly. raouldukelives Oct 2012 #373

No, they suck. MADem Oct 2012 #381

Bravo!!! spaulettea Oct 2012 #166

Looks like you don't know much about MM and have fallen for the multi million dollar sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #145

Oh please. Talking points my ass. MADem Oct 2012 #154

Did he really "shit" on John Kerry, ronnie624 Oct 2012 #159

First you say I don't make any sense, then you want me to do your homework for you. MADem Oct 2012 #179

Al Gore nichomachus Oct 2012 #60

You made my point. MADem Oct 2012 #72

You;re completely RIGHT! Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #83

Well, I didn't say that either. Not even close. MADem Oct 2012 #85

then what did you post because all i see is tripe Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #99

You have reading comprehension issues, then. MADem Oct 2012 #104

Great job of harming the president Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #169

He isn't affecting my vote for Obama. He's only harming himself, in my opinion. Zalatix Oct 2012 #181

That is your vote. There are other voters. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #185

I see your point. I did some of what you did Zalatix Oct 2012 #190

Your characterizations are untrue and rather pathetic. MADem Oct 2012 #184

Smug and clueless. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #186

"Those like you?" Really. How childish of you! MADem Oct 2012 #194

You were that Democratic headquarters' cross to bear. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #195

I think you're talking about yourself, there, dear. MADem Oct 2012 #198

Oh we know you weren't one of the "headquarters" guys. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #247

"We" know what you're all about, too. Keep talking. It's revealing. MADem Oct 2012 #251

A tale of two posts Zalatix Oct 2012 #192

Well, you don't read very carefully, now, do you? MADem Oct 2012 #196

"untrue and rather pathetic" RetroLounge Oct 2012 #395

Why are you being so uncivil? What do you hope to gain? MADem Oct 2012 #404

Moore is not my hero, you are... RetroLounge Oct 2012 #408

For you MADem LuvLoogie Oct 2012 #183

I'm with you on this treestar Oct 2012 #108

It isn't lost on me, either, that he lifted AL GORE's issue, here. MADem Oct 2012 #113

You make some very good points here. redqueen Oct 2012 #189

Thank you. I have no objection to the message. MADem Oct 2012 #200

That's because you are rude and condescending. /nt October Oct 2012 #206

I think you confuse your mirror with me, to put it politely. nt MADem Oct 2012 #219

Point proven. October Oct 2012 #385

You "read" a thread by ascribing motives/characterizations to me? MADem Oct 2012 #389

Another here who hears your salient and valid critiques of MM hiphopnation Oct 2012 #230

Your comments are appreciated. MADem Oct 2012 #231

the thread has somewhat devolved into nonsense and namecalling, too hiphopnation Oct 2012 #237

It's always the way when that guy's name comes up. MADem Oct 2012 #241

Shoot the messenger, avoid the message altogether. Great strategy. NOT. Zalatix Oct 2012 #119

Put your little gun away. Your misrepresentation is deliberate, obvious, and tiresome. MADem Oct 2012 #126

You apparently have no choice but to retreat to personal insults and invective, ronnie624 Oct 2012 #142

Look who's talking! Nobody does it better than you! MADem Oct 2012 #146

Your words make sense. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #149

They are entirely consistent with the facts. MADem Oct 2012 #157

Just *saying* your words are consistent with the facts doesn't mean that they are. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #162

I'm entirely calm--you're the one playing tag team wrestling with your little friend. MADem Oct 2012 #172

Oh so now it's a conspiracy against you! Zalatix Oct 2012 #178

Why are you hyper-replying to me? MADem Oct 2012 #187

Hyper-replying? What does THAT mean? Zalatix Oct 2012 #191

You chase me all over this thread, and you try to incite a pile-on in very uncivil fashion. MADem Oct 2012 #203

You're all over this thread. Talk about hyper-posting. October Oct 2012 #210

I am the one who posted the argument in opposition to the OP. MADem Oct 2012 #213

Wrong. October Oct 2012 #387

I haven't insulted anyone. MADem Oct 2012 #388

The problem with you is that your erroneous "reasoning" is in plain English Zalatix Oct 2012 #167

Yeah, yeah, sure -- whatever you say, now...! MADem Oct 2012 #390

LOL you can DISH IT OUT but you can't take it? Zalatix Oct 2012 #151

I don't care what you think--but say, thanks for that great advice. MADem Oct 2012 #160

You care what I think. You keep responding. Zalatix Oct 2012 #164

I only respond when you write yet another falsehood about my perspective or person. MADem Oct 2012 #216

I already know peace. Michael Moore was not wrong. Not one thing he said was wrong. Zalatix Oct 2012 #298

Who save you said he was "wrong?" Stop making thing up -- it is so easy to see that's what you are MADem Oct 2012 #303

If he's not wrong then you have absolutely no case. Zalatix Oct 2012 #308

Are you leaving home? Is that your suit case by the door? MADem Oct 2012 #312

You don't even understand what the word 'case' means, do you? Zalatix Oct 2012 #327

I know it's not a synonym for OPINION--but you're acting like it is. MADem Oct 2012 #329

Your opinions are based on gross factual errors. That is being charitable. Zalatix Oct 2012 #331

Keep your charity--you plainly need it. And no, my opinions are grounded in facts. nt MADem Oct 2012 #333

You accused Michael Moore of stealing from Al Gore. This is factually untrue. Zalatix Oct 2012 #336

That's because MaDem has been nailed right to the wall. A temper tantrum was to be expected. Zalatix Oct 2012 #148

Every single time. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #152

Your fixation on me and false characterizations about me are very curious. MADem Oct 2012 #168

Fixation? We're just disputing your points. Apparently you feel beset upon? Zalatix Oct 2012 #170

I think you need a larger spoon. nt MADem Oct 2012 #223

It is a shame kenfrequed Oct 2012 #163

FWIW, I think Lieberman is a craven asshole, too. MADem Oct 2012 #171

He is not the one that badmouthed Dems on Twitter after the 1st debate politicasista Oct 2012 #400

Bingo--well said Supersedeas Oct 2012 #411

What misrepresentations? I am totally correct in saying you are shooting the messenger. Zalatix Oct 2012 #147

He's not dead. MADem Oct 2012 #236

You are shooting the messenger and NOT even remotely addressing the message. Zalatix Oct 2012 #275

No, I am not. MADem Oct 2012 #287

Yes, you are. Full stop. Zalatix Oct 2012 #299

No. And you're not "telling the truth." MADem Oct 2012 #300

None of these points are untrue: Zalatix Oct 2012 #306

Yes, they are untrue. And your claims are absurd in the extreme. MADem Oct 2012 #318

I cited your personal attacks. My claims are proven. You don't have counter examples. Zalatix Oct 2012 #325

Sorry--you are wrong. No sale. And you have a nice day too. nt MADem Oct 2012 #328

I am right and you are wrong. My cites are all true and logical. And you have no counter facts. Zalatix Oct 2012 #330

Yeah, sure, sure, whatever you say. MADem Oct 2012 #340

Clueless. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #173

I'm not finding your attempts at insult very interesting. MADem Oct 2012 #239

But it is a form of attention that you can't resist. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #272

Wait, you started it with the insults. With several people, no less. Zalatix Oct 2012 #297

There you go again--making stuff up. MADem Oct 2012 #304

Here you go again - denying the facts. I hereby cite the proof that you instigate insults. Zalatix Oct 2012 #307

Get a grip. Really. That's not a personal attack, either--it's a genuine concern with regard to MADem Oct 2012 #338

It's a personal attack. And concern for others' well being? Physician, heal thyself. Zalatix Oct 2012 #339

Yeah, yeah, sure -- whatever you say, now...! MADem Oct 2012 #341

one more debate to go...? BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #45

I posted that before the 3rd debate started. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #65

No.. this was the LAST debate before the election--3 Presidential & one VP--done hlthe2b Oct 2012 #51

Yes, and if you look at the timestamp, I posted it BEFORE AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #66

In fact, MM spent a good chunk of Obama's first term cheerleading for him radiclib Oct 2012 #9

+1 lunasun Oct 2012 #10

+++++ marions ghost Oct 2012 #13

He lives in a million dollar lake house with a true value close to double that. MADem Oct 2012 #16

You talk about Michael Moore Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #48

No, I don't. Read all my comments, my critique is much more nuanced. MADem Oct 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #87

Why are YOU even here?? Welcome to DU. MADem Oct 2012 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #100

You have some reading to do. MADem Oct 2012 #105

Exactly, +10 n/t Cleita Oct 2012 #136

Please allow me to add that he made movies exposing the establishment--the 1% savannah43 Oct 2012 #252

Lets see... 99Forever Oct 2012 #58

Well said! Puglover Oct 2012 #59

Let's see? Gee, let's see! MADem Oct 2012 #74

Have you even looked at his career? Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #89

Yes, I have, and you might do the same. nt MADem Oct 2012 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #102

!!! Sorry, but.... MiddleFingerMom Oct 2012 #91

I am highly motivated to re-elect Barack Obama. nt MADem Oct 2012 #111

Comparing? 99Forever Oct 2012 #135

You might try reading the subthread. MADem Oct 2012 #143

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #351

This message was self-deleted by its author MrScorpio Oct 2012 #354

Posting pictures of his house? Trying to get the guy killed or something? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #86

You can't POSSIBLY be that obtuse. MADem Oct 2012 #103

So then you agree climate change should have been addressed in the debates? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #106

Absolutely. I think it is an important issue. MADem Oct 2012 #114

So you actually agree with the idea, but just think it should get in the closet until later. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #116

No. You aren't doing very well telling me what I think. MADem Oct 2012 #121

Your point: 1) Don't bring up climate change right now. 2) Michael Moore is a lard ass. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #139

No, and No. MADem Oct 2012 #150

Climate change should have been in the debates, and in the campaigns. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #218

The point of the thread was not that--it was to highlight MM's "moments before the last debate" MADem Oct 2012 #222

LOL Wrong again. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #249

"LOL Wrong again" right back atcha. MADem Oct 2012 #257

Climate change is not going to "get in the closet" during election season. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #267

It never came out of the closet, or its Barcolounger, or where ever it is hanging, no thanks to MM. MADem Oct 2012 #277

What is the reason climate change was not discussed during the Presidential election? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #281

He didn't just "share a graphic on facebook." MADem Oct 2012 #288

... limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #290

You too--nice chat! I enjoyed it. nt MADem Oct 2012 #291

Michael Moore is NOT late to the issue. He's been talking about Climate Change for sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #238

I haven't seen him do it. You'd think someone who can appear all over my TV MADem Oct 2012 #250

So now you know what a majority of Democrats are thinking because they do and sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #259

You need to stop putting words in my mouth. MADem Oct 2012 #262

What??? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #264

No, that's not what I said, but nice try. MADem Oct 2012 #270

+10 politicasista Oct 2012 #398

Prosense misses Al too! nt MADem Oct 2012 #401

Yes she does! politicasista Oct 2012 #402

+++++++++ newfie11 Oct 2012 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #84

What? treestar Oct 2012 #110

+1...nt SidDithers Oct 2012 #12

LOL, bury your head! Brilliant!!! Logical Oct 2012 #22

+1,000! I totally agree Zalatix Oct 2012 #24

Just because I think Michael Moore is a craven opportunist doesn't mean I don't think that MADem Oct 2012 #32

I wouldn't loose sleep over Michael Moore, MADem... MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #35

He won't have any "brilliant" topics unless he's got a "W" or a "RMoney" to crab about. MADem Oct 2012 #39

Is everyone who makes money from their own talents, politicians eg, artists, sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #243

No--but the ones who trash an environmental leader in the Democratic Party MADem Oct 2012 #265

I like the way he talks. He talks about the issues I care about as a Democrat. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #271

Al Gore and Hunter Lovins do a much better job. And they don't just articulate problems. MADem Oct 2012 #280

You claim your points are "nuanced?" savannah43 Oct 2012 #253

LOL Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #258

Your contribution to this discussion is nominal, at best. MADem Oct 2012 #266

That word 'nuanced'... does not mean what he/she think it means. Zalatix Oct 2012 #309

^^^^^ Perfection^^^^^ LovingA2andMI Oct 2012 #42

That's one of the worst things I've ever read on DU dreamnightwind Oct 2012 #44

That's one of the BEST things I've ever read on DU! MADem Oct 2012 #77

Another Obama vote attacked. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #174

I suspect you are. nt MADem Oct 2012 #224

I can see you are having trouble following your own blather. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #248

I think you're the one having trouble, there, Too Clever By Half. MADem Oct 2012 #268

I see where you missed what was going on. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #273

I didn't miss a thing. You did. And your comments continue to reveal your nature. nt MADem Oct 2012 #283

I'm tired and your flailing isn't at all interesting. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #284

I really don't care about your personal life. MADem Oct 2012 #286

I can certainly understand why many trivialize the person without addressing the message itself LanternWaste Oct 2012 #54

You missed the entire point. MADem Oct 2012 #67

"old enough to remember clean air" makes me wonder how old you are.. mountain grammy Oct 2012 #71

I grew up abroad, by the sea, with much less industrialization and few cars. MADem Oct 2012 #81

I've no doubt you believe your opnions to be both accurate and verifiable LanternWaste Oct 2012 #80

Yeah, bless your little heart, too. MADem Oct 2012 #88

Pointing out MM's largess Plucketeer Oct 2012 #131

You need to look up the word "largess"--because it does not mean what you think it means. MADem Oct 2012 #134

And there you show how little you know about MM. He is EXTREMELY generous. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #156

But he DOES talk about his "generosity." He makes a point of mentioning it. MADem Oct 2012 #158

Wrong, he addressed the issue of charity after he was attacked by the money poured into sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #165

MM is not an environmentalist--he voted against one in 2000. MADem Oct 2012 #193

Were always this angry with MM? Did you expound on how fat he is and how sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #240

Our friend Plucketeer Oct 2012 #220

I don't think you are much of a friend to me. nt MADem Oct 2012 #227

You need to look up the word "nuanced." savannah43 Oct 2012 #254

I think you do. nt MADem Oct 2012 #269

How do you know JonLP24 Oct 2012 #188

I don't live in a cave. I have TV, radio, and internet, too! MADem Oct 2012 #211

Damn right MADem! Why would anyone want to talk about A Simple Game Oct 2012 #61

Nice way to not see ANY nuance in what I wrote! MADem Oct 2012 #64

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #94

Nuance? I do not think that word means what you think it means. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #175

As much as I am entrenched in environmental activism, it's my career practically... NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #176

Thank you. MADem Oct 2012 #177

You, too, can photoshop shocking messages and post them on FaceBook! NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #180

Hunter Lovins! She's brilliant, isn't she? MADem Oct 2012 #205

I'm lucky... NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #235

Wow--I've only read her stuff. Hell, I don't touch scotch but I'd buy her a barrel for an MADem Oct 2012 #285

Why yes I am concerned, thanks for noticing. I think leaving the A Simple Game Oct 2012 #282

No feet were held to any fire, though--that's the problem. MADem Oct 2012 #293

That which can not be said pakilolo Oct 2012 #90

I think it should be discussed, actually. MADem Oct 2012 #112

He was discussing global climate change throughout 2011 and 2012. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #127

Well, I'm sure you'll provide us with links to all of his "discussing" over the years. MADem Oct 2012 #138

A search of Google shows exactly what he said about the issue. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #144

Yes--and what DID he say? Do tell! MADem Oct 2012 #215

Aren't YOU the one telling everyone else that "Google is your friend"? October Oct 2012 #207

I'm not the one desperately trying to "prove" that MM's interest in this issue isn't recent. MADem Oct 2012 #214

Not me, MADem. October Oct 2012 #386

Actually he has been discussing Environmental issues since way before 2011. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #242

I'm VERY familiar with the guy. MADem Oct 2012 #294

Ad hominem attacks and invective, as usual, lurching from one non sequitur to another. n/t ronnie624 Oct 2012 #96

Yeah, sure, whatever. Did you get that subject line from MADem Oct 2012 #117

Can you post a link to it? n/t ronnie624 Oct 2012 #120

PLONK Occulus Oct 2012 #109

Anyone else but me notice how MADem COMPLETELY AVOIDED Michael Moore's message Zalatix Oct 2012 #118

I didn't completely avoid it at all--and it isn't his message--he stole it--from Al Gore. MADem Oct 2012 #124

Wait, Al Gore is the only person who can point out these things? Zalatix Oct 2012 #153

You should put the little laughing man away. MADem Oct 2012 #229

Yes. Leave Al Gore's issue ALONE! Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #263

That pretty much sums it up. Zalatix Oct 2012 #276

Way to not read a single word of the discussion. Pat yourself on the back. MADem Oct 2012 #292

There is nothing unreasonable in anything Michael Moore says. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #313

I agree with most of your commentary. MADem Oct 2012 #316

Your 'nuanced' discussion? LOL Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #371

In hindlsight Al Gore did it all wrong. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #321

The right targeted Al Gore because he was a continuation of Clinton. MADem Oct 2012 #337

I was referencing "An Inconvenient Truth" SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #353

Yes, I took your point--I was agreeing with it. MADem Oct 2012 #358

You breathe, right WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #125

FWIW, when a segment of Democrats were itching for a primary challenge to Obama, MM said merrily Oct 2012 #201

You see that really doesn't matter because there is a certain part of The Party limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #221

If you did not care, you would roody Oct 2012 #228

No, you COULDN'T really give a shit about...yadda yadda... infidel dog Oct 2012 #233

Well....I suppose I could, if I took a huge strain... MADem Oct 2012 #357

And most of DU apparently feels the same about you RetroLounge Oct 2012 #365

Pitch perfect. Just perfect. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #2

As usual, Moore nails it n/t quinnox Oct 2012 #4

My site for watching Moore during the debate is his Tweet's page. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #7

"The OP is passively for Obama"? Are you talking about me? n/t Turborama Oct 2012 #14

Ma Dem.. #2. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #17

Not always friendly towards Obama, either. MADem Oct 2012 #26

Oh so he's not a sycophant like someone else... MessiahRp Oct 2012 #37

Disgusting? Really? Grow up. MADem Oct 2012 #38

That's what Faux do all the time with Al Gore Turborama Oct 2012 #43

Al Gore--in case you didn't notice--is supportive of Democrats for election. MADem Oct 2012 #79

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #98

LOL I wasn't comparing AG to MM, I was showing how similar your spin is to Faux' Turborama Oct 2012 #115

I'm afraid you are the one with the challenge in definition. MADem Oct 2012 #129

MM did not "slap together" the graphic, it was a share from 350.org's FB page Turborama Oct 2012 #278

How good of you to correct the misapprehension that you created with your OP. MADem Oct 2012 #310

You're welcome Turborama Oct 2012 #314

It wasn't my OP. It's all yours. nt MADem Oct 2012 #342

It seems like it's you're thread now, though Turborama Oct 2012 #355

Well, that WAS your OP--so that's on you. MADem Oct 2012 #359

I provided a link which takes you to his FB page, it's not my fault that you didn't click on it Turborama Oct 2012 #361

I didn't say it had anything to do with the buttons. MADem Oct 2012 #362

Michael Moore did post it on his FB page Turborama Oct 2012 #363

I am no expert, but I understood what you describe to be a "share" not a "post." MADem Oct 2012 #364

You can view FB without being a member, just like DU Turborama Oct 2012 #366

I said I was no expert. MADem Oct 2012 #382

I didn't insist you "need" to use FB & "must" click on the link. However, your failure to click = Turborama Oct 2012 #391

Sorry, I think you're the captain of the ship. It was, after all, YOUR subject line. MADem Oct 2012 #396

You own this Failboat and are its navigator Turborama Oct 2012 #405

You lit the boilers and steered it towards shore. You set the course. It's yours, Captain. MADem Oct 2012 #406

Trouble is, you've been relying on a sextant and slide rule, while I expected you to use gps Turborama Oct 2012 #407

Sorry Cap'n! When I went to school, there was no GPS! MADem Oct 2012 #412

If you're going to be a tool about it... MessiahRp Oct 2012 #46

Really? How do I "know" that MM isn't "attempting to SINK Obama's campaign?" MADem Oct 2012 #140

Yes MM would prefer to SINK Obama and put Romney into office. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #197

It would make him quite rich. MADem Oct 2012 #204

He did NOT take 12 years to speak out about the environment. Where are you getting sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #245

No--you found one short comment from 2009 and another in 2011! MADem Oct 2012 #305

He doesn't need more money. He's not a multinational corporation, he's a human. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #255

I can't handle criticism of "my" idols? The irony is thick, here! MADem Oct 2012 #315

It's actually a pretty big subset.. I'd say you yourself are among only a very few sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #323

Well, the pundits differ. They said the F911 opus did more harm to Kerry than good--and I believe MADem Oct 2012 #326

F911 hurt Kerry as much as swiftboating? You are on DRUGS. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #347

There you go again--more invective. Don't try to ascribe your bad habits to me. MADem Oct 2012 #352

you tell MessiahRp to grow up yet MessiahRp is not the one having a temper tantrum leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #50

You're not making sense. nt MADem Oct 2012 #82

You call Michael Moore "fat" Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #56

He's not? MADem Oct 2012 #122

Well, if he's fat, I guess that does it. Don't anyone listen to a word a fat person has sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #161

I don't call him fat, though--you do. Everyone else is doing it here, too. MADem Oct 2012 #302

"I don't call him fat, though--you do. Everyone else is doing it here, too." Shining Jack Oct 2012 #374

I was referring to his lifestyle, wealth and hubris. MADem Oct 2012 #377

Hum, sure, right, whatever. Shining Jack Oct 2012 #415

Fat? Wow. I'd expect that attack... from a second grader. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #256

If it's so pathetic, stop making it. MADem Oct 2012 #343

" I really don't care what you think." RetroLounge Oct 2012 #409

This is your fifth "mocking" post. Why do you continue to behave this way? MADem Oct 2012 #410

and here's another one... RetroLounge Oct 2012 #416

Party over principles? pocoloco Oct 2012 #97

This isn't "Let's have a nice little intellectual discussion" Underground. MADem Oct 2012 #123

Check your brains at the door, people. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #418

Derp? Really? Aren't you a charmer. MADem Oct 2012 #419

MM. calls it like he sees it. He is not in love with either candidate. crunch60 Oct 2012 #41

Al Gore speaks about important issues like climate change. MADem Oct 2012 #155

Yeah Moore's issues: Health Care Reform, Corporate Greed... these are not "important". MessiahRp Oct 2012 #348

Al Gore supported Al Gore for the Presidency. MADem Oct 2012 #349

Should u read the credits of MM's film's : he's pretty much cyclezealot Oct 2012 #47

We'll have to agree to differ on that score, I'm afraid. MADem Oct 2012 #344

Some of us don't want any more uniters.. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #367

Oh but wait Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #55

He's a professional scold. MADem Oct 2012 #345

He's an American citizen who saw the lies being told by the Bush administration sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #413

You are entitled to your opinion about the guy. As am I. I am an American citizen, too. MADem Oct 2012 #414

Romney equals war. WCLinolVir Oct 2012 #57

I'm donating, volunteering and voting, and, now, thanks to this, not sleeping! mountain grammy Oct 2012 #209

great post. That video was probably the best commercial so far this year. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #295

also untold millions that go to the networks Enrique Oct 2012 #5

Van Jones just brought it up on CNN Turborama Oct 2012 #6

. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #8

Gotta Luv Me Some Michael Moore!!!!!! n/t MoonshadowLou Oct 2012 #15

One thing at a time, Mike...let's win the election first. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #18

Almost thought Obama was going to say it when Schaffer asked "What glinda Oct 2012 #19

Good catch! Turborama Oct 2012 #23

That would have been a great opportunity to say it. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #376

I thought Obama at least mentioned it in the second debate uponit7771 Oct 2012 #20

interesting response compared to the way he attacked Obama after the First Debate JI7 Oct 2012 #21

I think he likes to be on the side delivering the beat-down. MADem Oct 2012 #27

yup, why not appeal for lack of substance after that debate JI7 Oct 2012 #29

He gets rich whining about Republicans. MADem Oct 2012 #30

The OP was posted before the debate, not after Turborama Oct 2012 #31

We've moved on to talking about his post-debate "tweets." MADem Oct 2012 #33

He ain't gone do it. Requires courage. politicasista Oct 2012 #234

actually it was 360 minutes dsc Oct 2012 #25

He's right. femrap Oct 2012 #28

"You've convinced me. Now go out and make me do it." --FDR Strat0 Oct 2012 #34

Not exactly on topic, but I don't think FDR waited for anyone to make him do anything. merrily Oct 2012 #199

As I understand it Strat0 Oct 2012 #392

Rec the sentiment, not sure that Michael is very Eco-minded tho RiverStone Oct 2012 #36

+1 Go Vols Oct 2012 #40

My husband made a good point at the debate watch tonight eridani Oct 2012 #49

Is what Moore says true? sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #52

Thank You Michael Moore Shireling Oct 2012 #62

He's a "Democrat" lol! politicasista Oct 2012 #397

Lots of issues weren't discussed because Romney refused to get specific on anything stevenleser Oct 2012 #63

Michael is right. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #69

Omitting climate from the debates was extremely irresponsible, limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #70

CSM had an interesting article on the "why" of that decision. MADem Oct 2012 #346

kick for truth Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #75

We know Obama's postition and we know Romney's, that's good enough for voting Democat Oct 2012 #76

Thanks For Your Efforts to Reelect President Obama rbrnmw Oct 2012 #95

Michael's right, big oil is theirs, IOW, more reason to vote for OBAMA. Festivito Oct 2012 #101

What is there to debate? kirby Oct 2012 #107

well heaven05 Oct 2012 #132

Amen brother. And the Corpote Media as accompliss harun Oct 2012 #133

Corporate tentacles run deep. woo me with science Oct 2012 #370

Global climate change is real and Cleita Oct 2012 #137

+1000. exactly. nt limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #212

And once we talk about this, there's another bigger topic behind it that we have to get to. Gregorian Oct 2012 #141

Whooot! REC # 200. Coyotl Oct 2012 #182

Not even true. mattclearing Oct 2012 #202

+1 politicasista Oct 2012 #232

I just read this article before coming here: SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #208

$4.50 a gallon for gas locally is not helping me nor anyone in this area. Cleita Oct 2012 #217

Then why is the cost of oil soaring? Here in Southern Ca it is nearly $5.00 a gal. So sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #244

... politicasista Oct 2012 #225

Thank goodness MM doesn't listen to the idiots, Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #274

KNR for Moore's excellent, un-refuted point. DirkGently Oct 2012 #279

Wow. Somebody has gone insane on this thread, and it ain't Michael Moore. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #289

Showing your class, I see. nt MADem Oct 2012 #296

You're still at it? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #334

Warren is in a tight contest. It's starting to get very dirty on the Brown side. MADem Oct 2012 #360

Frontline: Climate of Doubt pointed out that Obama... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #301

Climate of Doubt also gave a platform to the people who say that climate change isn't real. MADem Oct 2012 #311

That was the most depressing Frontline EVER! Ayn Rand, CATO, David Koch . . . . SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #319

It came on in my market this evening--I had to change the channel. I had the same reaction you did. MADem Oct 2012 #332

There may be a linchpin that would collapse the whole movement. Or Van Jones SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #350

Good. Americans need to know who these fuckers are, WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #417

I think, long view, this is the next big thing to talk about. MADem Oct 2012 #420

Climate change is one of the issues that pisses me off ProSense Oct 2012 #317

Watch this and you'll find out why nothing will be done . . . SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #320

As a relatively new member here... lexx21 Oct 2012 #322

Your post is fine. I agree with it completely. Posts slamming Liberals like MM sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #324

Did you mean to direct that towards me? MADem Oct 2012 #356

A few questions whatchamacallit Oct 2012 #368

Surely you know the answer to this question you pose, unless you're Rip Van Winkle. MADem Oct 2012 #379

At the risk of being ripped to shreds here.... lexx21 Oct 2012 #383

If you get ripped, it won't be me doing it. MADem Oct 2012 #384

"I find MM divisive" RetroLounge Oct 2012 #378

Only you could possibly think that expressing an OPINION on a DISCUSSION board is somehow MADem Oct 2012 #380

Yes, only me! RetroLounge Oct 2012 #394

Yes. It's the new DU woo me with science Oct 2012 #369

Green Jobs were mentioned in the First Debate JI7 Oct 2012 #335

To be fair, Obama did mention global warming in the first debate, IIRC. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #372

President supports an "all of the above" energy strategy. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #375

Yep he has politicasista Oct 2012 #403

K&R woo me with science Oct 2012 #393

K&R. (nt) Kurovski Oct 2012 #399