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iemanja

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Sat Dec 11, 2021, 11:16 PM Dec 2021

Many parents of school shooters ignore glaring warning signs. This grandmother didn't. [View all]

She had seen her grandson’s red, spiral-bound notebook before that night, but now, as Catherine O’Connor sifted through its pages for the first time, what she read astonished her.

“School Shootings,” Joshua O’Connor had titled the first page, above a reconstruction of the Columbine High School massacre that left 13 people dead. In the pages that followed, Joshua, who’d just turned 18, described a detailed plan to carry out his own massacre: the shotguns, pistols, assault rifle and ammunition he would buy and the bombs he would build; the doors he would zip-tie “so bitches can’t escape”; the spot by the bleachers where he would set off the first explosion; the route he would take on his killing spree; the moment, when it was over, that he would end his own life.

“I Need to make this shooting/ bombing... infamous,” he wrote in early 2018. “I Need to get the biggest fatality number I possibly can.”

Catherine O’Connor, a retired probation officer who was Joshua’s guardian, showed the journal to her husband, who was equally disturbed. The next day, after O’Connor dropped her grandson off at school, she searched his room and found a semiautomatic rifle in a guitar case. Then she did what many parents of school shooters never do: called the police to report that a child she loved posed a threat to his classmates, his community and himself.


WaPo paywall: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/12/09/parents-school-shooters-charges-crumbleys/

Police found bomb parts in Joshua's room. The day after his grandmother called the police and Joshua was taken into custody, the Parkland shooting happened. He was later sentenced to 22.5 years in jail.




Video from a VA local TV station:

https://www.kiro7.com/news/north-sound-news/teen-who-plotted-school-bombing-apologizes-calls-grandmother-the-hero-/919312094/


I know Joshua O'Conner was a threat and had to be placed in prison, but I can't help thinking about the light sentences for the Capitol Hill attackers who went through with the violence they planned.

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I have to wonder if he'll get the psychiatric help he clearly needs. dflprincess Dec 2021 #1
If you watch the video linked at the bottom of the OP iemanja Dec 2021 #12
Thanks for pointing that out dflprincess Dec 2021 #22
22 years is too punitive--it will deter parents and other guardians and relatives Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #2
agreed Skittles Dec 2021 #3
I don't know. His life is pretty much ruined. Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #5
He was also the suspect in a convenience store robbery iemanja Dec 2021 #7
The robbery and illegal explosives does change things-- Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #10
wonder if the judge wanted to make sure it extended past the life of his grandparents samnsara Dec 2021 #14
I don't know. I read in some of the WaPo comments that the judge went Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #18
I agree. iemanja Dec 2021 #4
The flip side is Aidan Ingalls who plotted a 2018 school shooting in Michigan, was Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #8
Clearly juvenile detention was completely inadequate for someone like Aidan Ingalis. LisaL Dec 2021 #13
Yes, that was shocking and so random. Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #16
I don't think 22 years is too much Cha Dec 2021 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #21
Its hard to turn in those you love. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #6
The Unabomber was turned in by his brother. tblue37 Dec 2021 #17
We've become completely dependent on "ordinary people" to be the heroes bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #9
Yes, I had already read iemanja Dec 2021 #11
She did the right thing MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #15
Case in Pennsylvania too, two teenagers had weapons and were casing the school. Archae Dec 2021 #19
Such a relief they caught them iemanja Dec 2021 #23
Man, that's a tough one ... SarcasticSatyr Dec 2021 #20
I'm on the same page as you. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #24
22.5 years for ... a plan CloudWatcher Dec 2021 #25
It was more than a plan canetoad Dec 2021 #28
Yes, but as others have pointed out iemanja Dec 2021 #29
I actually agree with you canetoad Dec 2021 #30
Does The Punishment Fit The Crime? DallasNE Dec 2021 #27
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