Joe Manchin is so important to the dem party...

[Celerity]

16. Ludicrous.

Of course since he's also not to the left of AOC he get nothing but hate here.

Up until after January 2021, Sinema and Manchin were barely talked about here compared to the almost non-stop hate I have seen (since I joined DU in summer 2018) directed here against AOC, Sanders, and the other Squad members, as well as other progs at times. TBF, most of that comes from a small group who are organised, loud, repetitive, and relentless, but it is far longer in duration.

Overall this board is hardly LW progressive dominated, certainly not since I have been around.

No one expects Manchin or Sinema to be anywhere near AOC ideologically, but FFS, when it is just those TWO against Biden, Harris and basically ALL of the rest of our Dem caucus (SO 272 versus 2), of course they are going to get stick, especially on two HUGE things like the BBB and the voter rights/protection bills.