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PTWB

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23. I'll break it down for you one "fact" (LOL) at a time.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:52 PM
Dec 2021

Fact: We lost many seats in 2020 because the image that the party projected was a shift to the left. While welcomed on these pages it was not around the country. Even Congressman Clyburn blamed these observations, specifically citing the "defund the police."


This is your opinion. My opinion is we lost seats because we shifted too far to the right.



Fact: one reason Biden became our candidate was that he was not Sanders - who is not even a Democrat - nor Warren. His message was of moderation. Whoever designed the qualifications for participating in the debates ignored the large political map. Not everyone expresses their opinions on social media nor influenced by it which was the driving force for these qualifications.


This is your opinion. My opinion is that Biden was viewed as the safest choice to nominate to beat Trump based on his extensive experience.



Fact: we ended up with a slim majority in the House and a V.P. majority in the Senate. Yet many viewed it as a sounding mandate and started on a wide legislation that is not ground in the political reality.


This is actually a fact. You've found one!



Fact: the left wing of the party held the infrastructure bill hostage which may have helped the loss in VA. It gave an impression that the Democrats are incompetent in governing.


This is your opinion. My opinion is that the right wing of the party held the BBB hostage which is absolutely responsible for the loss in VA.

See how that works?

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DAMN! elleng Dec 2021 #1
Facts: Moderates flipped the House in 2018 question everything Dec 2021 #2
Those look more like 'alternative' facts 🤣 PTWB Dec 2021 #12
Just throwing words with nothing behind them. If this style works for you.. question everything Dec 2021 #19
Oh, let me try! PTWB Dec 2021 #20
Oh kay, let's try. S-l-o-w-l-y. Which facts that I stated are "alternative?" question everything Dec 2021 #22
I'll break it down for you one "fact" (LOL) at a time. PTWB Dec 2021 #23
Fact, 2018 winners hit Trump over and over again on Obamacare wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #14
Which messages? Yes, Obamacare was important and all "socialist" claims question everything Dec 2021 #21
opinions are not automatically facts nt Celerity Dec 2021 #26
"1. Botched messaging....." 👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #3
What would you expect in a "reach out" to you? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #4
I would expect Sean or Lucinda Guinn (executive director) to make a compelling case... brooklynite Dec 2021 #9
So you don't think "Trump and his supporters tried to mount a coup" would work? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #25
No I don't think the Coup will help us...local issues and pocket book issues are winning issues... Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #27
The coup won't help us until another one succeeds. Blaukraut Dec 2021 #28
So Republicans succeed with stirring up bullshit about "Critical Race Theory" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #29
I'm not advocating saying nothing. Just pointing out reality. Blaukraut Dec 2021 #30
Ive got an example. WarGamer Dec 2021 #5
Whoever is making the point about focusing too much on Trump Sogo Dec 2021 #6
+1000 nt WarGamer Dec 2021 #7
1+++ SunImp Dec 2021 #10
Agreed madville Dec 2021 #13
+1 leftstreet Dec 2021 #24
A "Dems in Disarray" story from POLITICO???? dpibel Dec 2021 #8
Dems in disarray! -or not? crickets Dec 2021 #11
There is one winning election message for 2022 and 2024 but it's contingent... andym Dec 2021 #15
I do not think Democrats are in disarray, Mary in S. Carolina Dec 2021 #16
Seems that some Dems just don't get or refuse to acknowledge, the clear lessons of 2018. empedocles Dec 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author empedocles Dec 2021 #18
The message needs to be specific to the district. LiberalFighter Dec 2021 #31
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