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cab67

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Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:33 PM Dec 2021

Dear college student who's not happy with your grade in my class: [View all]

Reasons I would be willing to alter your grade:

1. An error has been found. A score was entered incorrectly, something that you completed wasn’t entered at all, you found some mistakes in the way your final exam was graded – something like that. And the points returned to you are enough to make a difference in your course standing.

That’s pretty much it.

Reasons I’m not willing to alter your grade:

1. It doesn’t reflect your own subjective assessment of the effort you put into the class.

2. You’re applying for a highly competitive job or for some form of post-graduate education (grad school, med school, etc.), or you plan to join the military as an officer.

3. Your parent(s) and or guardian(s) will be so very disappointed if your grade isn’t improved.

4. You suffered from physical or mental issues throughout the semester, or had some actual scheduling problems that kept you from attending class regularly, but are only bringing it up now, long after I (or anyone else) can do anything about it.

5. You just realized you didn’t turn in a homework assignment. It's now mid-December, but it was due in October. (And no, I won’t give you an incomplete so you can "continue the dialogue" over whether your TA or I might be willing to change our minds. I’ve had someone ask that.)

6. You found an error in the grading of your first midterm, which you took two months ago.

7. You had an exceptionally busy semester.

8. You might lose your scholarship if your grade isn’t changed.

9. Can’t I be merciful in the spirit of the holidays?

10. You think I’m being unfair in assessing your grade based on what you actually turned in, and not on what you would have turned in if you’d done better.

11. You're "just not a science person." (Do you know what my advisor would have done to me if I’d done poorly in a medieval lit class and tried “I’m just not a humanities person” as an excuse?)

There are other excuses I can add to this list, but these are the ones I've encountered in the past couple of years.

And you know what? "How far am I from the cutoff for the next highest grade?" will always be answered with “not close enough to justify a grade change.” It doesn’t matter how far off they are are – students will invariably try to nickel and dime points from every exam and assignment in the hope of crossing that threshold. It wastes a lot of time and never results an improved grade.

Seriously – a grade is a goal to be achieved. It isn’t a commodity to be negotiated. And begging makes you look really pathetic.

sincerely,

your humble instructor.

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Same reply to HS students.... QED Dec 2021 #1
Dear High School Student that is unhappy with the grades in my class: AZLD4Candidate Dec 2021 #2
What would you do about high school that has 1,000's Tree Lady Dec 2021 #49
I don't teach chemistry AZLD4Candidate Dec 2021 #53
There's always the race/religion/ethnicity card . . . Aussie105 Dec 2021 #3
Reponse to that: Report me. Say and spell my name right. Maybe I can AZLD4Candidate Dec 2021 #4
I've never had a student try to race/religion/ethnicity on me. cab67 Dec 2021 #6
I just pop back and say I'm Jewish and Native American, my wife is Chinese from China AZLD4Candidate Dec 2021 #9
I am glad to hear of this instructor's strict adherence to awarding the grades earned. It seems SWBTATTReg Dec 2021 #5
We can get in real trouble if we don't accept some level of inflation. cab67 Dec 2021 #15
Most of these seem appropraite. PTWB Dec 2021 #7
I have an explicit statute of limitations on my syllabus. cab67 Dec 2021 #16
I don't think that a statute of limitations in the syllabus really solves the problem. PTWB Dec 2021 #21
Based on my 25 years in this profession... cab67 Dec 2021 #25
Maybe it solves the problem in the sense that it reduces the inconvenience for you. PTWB Dec 2021 #26
I had an absolutely hard core professor this semester Sympthsical Dec 2021 #8
I had a law school contracts professor who had a thing for the statute of frauds. rsdsharp Dec 2021 #13
Like I said below- as long as the exams are fair DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #32
The other half of this guy's exam was, as I said, multiple choice. rsdsharp Dec 2021 #47
How are these entitled students going to function in jobs? yardwork Dec 2021 #34
With this caveat... druidity33 Dec 2021 #10
Please see the commentary I posted before this one. cab67 Dec 2021 #18
Yeah, i hadn't seen that thread... druidity33 Dec 2021 #27
"mental health" crew gonna drag you to hell and back greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #11
not necessarily cab67 Dec 2021 #19
Number four is the only one I take issue with FreeState Dec 2021 #12
Again... cab67 Dec 2021 #22
There's a difference between changing a grade - Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #24
So glad not to have to depend on a teacher to teach me lostnfound Dec 2021 #14
Hate to telegraph my age but arguing for a bump up was never an option for me when I was in college. halfulglas Dec 2021 #17
My daughter has heard variations of the following from her peers Generic Brad Dec 2021 #20
I'm at a public university cab67 Dec 2021 #23
She's at an Ivy League Generic Brad Dec 2021 #33
My son had a Statistics professor last semester helpisontheway Dec 2021 #28
out of curiosity - cab67 Dec 2021 #29
I mean that she knew that he worked helpisontheway Dec 2021 #30
Except for the "rude" part... cab67 Dec 2021 #35
As long as your tests are an assessment of material DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #31
I've had averages below 75 percent. cab67 Dec 2021 #36
Then you aren't making fair tests...sorry DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #38
I respectfully disagree. cab67 Dec 2021 #41
You're teaching stats, and ignore the data? DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #43
I don't teach stats. cab67 Dec 2021 #44
I guess p-values don't exist in paleontology ? DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #45
They do. cab67 Dec 2021 #46
The whole premise of your post DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #50
Have you actually seen my tests? cab67 Dec 2021 #51
My "arbitrary" insistence DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #52
"a smarter general population." cab67 Dec 2021 #54
Well, like I said - as a biochemist in the field DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #58
Your premise can also be rejected... cab67 Dec 2021 #57
First of all DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #63
well.....no cab67 Dec 2021 #65
I always dreaded the moments after I submitted grades online because my email tblue37 Dec 2021 #37
I'd ask you to be compassionate on #4 Happy Hoosier Dec 2021 #39
We are. cab67 Dec 2021 #40
I don't know where you teach... brooklynite Dec 2021 #42
What type of parents are involved at the grad school level? ecstatic Dec 2021 #64
The parents who are paying the bills for their children's tuition. brooklynite Dec 2021 #66
High schools are no longer preparing students for college level work FakeNoose Dec 2021 #48
I wouldn't assign grades if I didn't have to struggle4progress Dec 2021 #55
The cut-offs aren't always provided. Nor can they be. cab67 Dec 2021 #56
The best scheme I ever saw for cut-offs, in large multisection struggle4progress Dec 2021 #60
Yes. I turned in my grades yesteday. Straw Man Dec 2021 #59
I got a few free A grades XRubicon Dec 2021 #61
You are lucky Meowmee Dec 2021 #62
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