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36. He lied, MM. Then he stalled. Then he obfuscated. Lied some more. Stalled. Congress has gone home.

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Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:36 PM

Dec 2021

I don’t know what else to say.

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Ask Manchin what parts of the BBB he will vote for and trim it down. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2021 OP

I think the problem is we can't trust Manchin's word in the deal Walleye Dec 2021 #1

Possibly. I don't know him. But there are those who do. MineralMan Dec 2021 #2

Well I'm just going on the way he's been this year so far Walleye Dec 2021 #5

This isn't actually true. The shock from this move is that he's Hortensis Dec 2021 #44

They aren't going to kill the filibuster leftstreet Dec 2021 #3

Perhaps. MineralMan Dec 2021 #7

There's really only one option at this point leftstreet Dec 2021 #9

The Senate won't bring it for a vote...wasting time...and I know you all think, the 'people will Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #21

A McConnell senate would leftstreet Dec 2021 #23

Reconciliation won't work for individual pieces of the bill. onenote Dec 2021 #52

How many reconciliation bullets will we have to pass them? wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #4

I am not in the Senate. I do not know. MineralMan Dec 2021 #8

So repeat what we did this year wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #12

amazing huh? Voltaire2 Dec 2021 #42

Possibly some back tracking by him today Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 #6

As I said above, I do not know Joe Manchin. MineralMan Dec 2021 #11

He's the one having knee-jerk reactions. Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #55

He's just trying to reduce the heat qazplm135 Dec 2021 #27

No, he's done Polybius Dec 2021 #10

See Post #6. MineralMan Dec 2021 #14

I seen him on TV today Polybius Dec 2021 #17

You seen him? OK, then... MineralMan Dec 2021 #18

Yeah, I heard what he had to say today on his interview Polybius Dec 2021 #19

Very unlikely. When Republicans win, the country move right historically. And no we don't give up... Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #22

Do you really trust Manchin to keep his word? atreides1 Dec 2021 #13

I do not know Joe Manchin at all. MineralMan Dec 2021 #16

Already been done, Manchin keeps faltering RainCaster Dec 2021 #15

Yup. The bill they have now is the Manchin approved bill. Johonny Dec 2021 #49

That could work, esp given Grassley's latest Tweet mcar Dec 2021 #20

Screw him Triloon Dec 2021 #24

That's already been done and he changed again and again! Emile Dec 2021 #25

We asked what he'd vote for when it was a $4T bill, he helped cut it to $1.75T, then tanked it. tinrobot Dec 2021 #26

Can't. We have Mancinema syndrome 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #28

LOL! LowerManhattanite Dec 2021 #29

It would work if you could trust Manchin. He keeps telling the POTUS and his fellow Dems Vinca Dec 2021 #30

Like i said today. It's time, (like you said) ask Joe, then MOVE FORWARD! bluestarone Dec 2021 #31

Manchinema would trim anything that would benefit PoC, radius777 Dec 2021 #32

Well said nt XanaDUer2 Dec 2021 #33

You really don't get it. berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #34

Brother, we don't have the votes to kill the filibuster. PTWB Dec 2021 #35

He lied, MM. Then he stalled. Then he obfuscated. Lied some more. Stalled. Congress has gone home. Hekate Dec 2021 #36

He's already been given what he said he could work with. But then he changed his mind, Autumn Dec 2021 #37

Hoping for Manchin to come good for the party and country's sake is like cosplaying Celerity Dec 2021 #39

It's become a fucking joke at this point. But that dead horse isn't going to beat itself. Autumn Dec 2021 #40

He is NOT going to allow a carve-out to the filibuster, therefore your separate bill gambit is DOA. Celerity Dec 2021 #38

That is exactly what was done. Voltaire2 Dec 2021 #41

All Manchin Wants Is Less, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2021 #43

I understand, which is why MineralMan Dec 2021 #45

Absolutely, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2021 #46

Maybe extend the Ryan tax slashes too BradAllison Dec 2021 #47

How about we stop giving him want he wants so he can then say no? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #48

So, what is your suggestion? MineralMan Dec 2021 #50

It's already dead. Voltaire2 Dec 2021 #51

I say exhaust all options. BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #53

There's this common saying wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #54

Joe Manchin is vested in stopping Joe Biden's agenda. He will not do these things you suggested. UCmeNdc Dec 2021 #56