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George II

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61. How was Clinton NOT "connected" in 2016, and just WHY are you bringing up the 2016 primary here?

Tue Dec 28, 2021, 10:23 PM

Dec 2021

Also, what's this business of "Bernie has been warning about for decades"?

Hint: we've had two VERY talented and qualified candidates for President in the last two elections. Sadly Hillary Clinton was defeated for reasons OTHER than herself, and thankfully Joseph Biden was elected President.

I wish people would just let the bashing of Clinton go, it's wearisome. And much to the chagrin of some, she WAS our candidate.

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If a CEO offers a member of Congress $5 to vote for a bill, it's considered a bribe - [View all] Uncle Joe Dec 2021 OP

...K&R... spanone Dec 2021 #1

DURec leftstreet Dec 2021 #2

Elections are publicly funded. Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #3

End citizens United. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #4

End the corruption the most crazy decision in Supreme Court history unleashed. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #21

Progressives should pull together JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #25

Why do we need a new one? questionseverything Dec 2021 #48

You may have missed the part about the bill not having passed the House yet. lapucelle Dec 2021 #51

Post # 7 quotes president obama saying it had passed the house questionseverything Dec 2021 #52

That version (H.R.5175) passed the House during the 111th United States Congress 10 years ago. lapucelle Dec 2021 #56

Point remains the same questionseverything Dec 2021 #57

Your point that the current bill passed the House and died in the Senate does not remain the same. lapucelle Dec 2021 #60

If there is a current bill then it doesn't need to be written questionseverything Dec 2021 #64

Article 1 Section 5: Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings lapucelle Dec 2021 #66

There isn't a current bill JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #76

Post #51 says there is questionseverything Dec 2021 #92

but money IS free speech and corporations are individuals, some with religious sensibilities. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #5

Presidential elections ARE publicly funded. former9thward Dec 2021 #6

President Obama Warned us JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #7

He certainly did, and so did Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. This is not a "revolutionary" idea. George II Dec 2021 #18

Yep! Absolutely. calimary Dec 2021 #19

Good to see Bernie promoting OTHER PEOPLE'S IDEAS. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #34

I'm at a loss as to why JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #41

Why bother, it has no chance of passing the Senate...maybe they should concentrate on BBB Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Dec 2021 #8

Write up the bill jimfields33 Dec 2021 #9

Get over yourself.... George II Dec 2021 #11

You are correct JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #22

It's just that easy, isn't it. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #35

For the record, Justice Democrats and Sunrise Movement now are Super-PACs and..... George II Dec 2021 #10

He should demand accountability from everyone. lapucelle Dec 2021 #16

Saikat Chakrabarti - I know that name JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #24

Chakrabarti, Zack Exley, Kyle Kulinski, and Cenk Uygur are the founders of Justice Democrats. lapucelle Dec 2021 #28

Let's start the cleanup with Justice Democrats superpac lapucelle Dec 2021 #12

Wait - whaaaaat? JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #23

From the latest iteration of the Justice Democrat's FAQ page. lapucelle Dec 2021 #31

Justice Democrats AND their affiliated group, Sunrise Movement, converted to Carey committees.... George II Dec 2021 #36

That's interesting JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #39

Why do you have a problem with the group encouraging questionseverything Dec 2021 #38

I guess I didn't see lapucelle JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #42

Those were the examples he/she posted questionseverything Dec 2021 #46

I didn't post those "examples". You did. lapucelle Dec 2021 #63

You posted "cash dash" and those were the examples used questionseverything Dec 2021 #65

What's "cash dash"? N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #67

It's the article in your post#12 questionseverything Dec 2021 #91

The article is report about a superpac's haul. Isn't "cash dash" some sort of contest or lottery? lapucelle Dec 2021 #93

What are you getting on about? JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #77

Justice Democrats superpac did not spend one dime against Republicans in the last cycle. lapucelle Dec 2021 #80

JD's ability to spend unlimited funds against Democrats is a direct result of Citizens United. lapucelle Dec 2021 #81

Why would Justice Democrat's be spending money AGAINST this Democrat in 2020? lapucelle Dec 2021 #82

Strangers (well-meaning or otherwise) are not entitled to define who I do and do not lapucelle Dec 2021 #44

Please look into the background behind Justice Democrats and how they've operated. George II Dec 2021 #50

K&R BlueJac Dec 2021 #13

We really do need to get money out of politics KS Toronado Dec 2021 #14

Any change of that died in 16...with the Trump pics on SCOTUS, no legislation will matter and Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #86

It's hard to overturn Supreme Court rulings. fescuerescue Dec 2021 #15

That gives rise to a dilemma DFW Dec 2021 #17

Members of the House and Senate can receive up to $50 in gifts or dinner. former9thward Dec 2021 #69

Ah, OK, sort of like the $200 rule for presidents DFW Dec 2021 #72

Very cool. former9thward Dec 2021 #78

If you look closely DFW Dec 2021 #79

Of Course It Is Me. Dec 2021 #20

If it's a Dem Congressperson and a Dem Super-PAC, I'm for it gulliver Dec 2021 #26

how do you "overturn" it? AlexSFCA Dec 2021 #27

Thank you. Bumper-sticker slogans and tweets are not legislation... AND... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #29

Bring back the Disclose Act JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #40

Lobbying is nothing but legalized bribery Poiuyt Dec 2021 #30

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #32

Do you feel the same way about the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and their lobbying activities? NurseJackie Dec 2021 #33

Any suggestion on just how to proceed to overturn Citizens United? I see that rallying cry.... George II Dec 2021 #37

My idea JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #43

One would have thought that would have come up a long time ago. George II Dec 2021 #45

This point has been around for a decade and then some. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #49

Exactly JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #75

I would have started by NOT bashing HRC so much in 2016 that trump was able to Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 #47

Now that you mention 2016 perhaps if HRC had been better connected Uncle Joe Dec 2021 #53

Oh, Jesus. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #58

Garbage like that on DU is why Hillary lost. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 #59

Exactly. Some embraced and spread, others were dispirited by, Hortensis Dec 2021 #73

You don't have to go very far at all to see it either Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 #88

Why, I don't know, but the Kremlin's social media warfare experts Hortensis Dec 2021 #94

Who is that? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 #95

One who's been saying things like this ever since he was fired Hortensis Dec 2021 #96

How was Clinton NOT "connected" in 2016, and just WHY are you bringing up the 2016 primary here? George II Dec 2021 #61

Democrats chose the BEST candidate in 2016 and 2020... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #71

👆👆👆 sheshe2 Dec 2021 #89

She had a detailed $30 billion plan to revitalize coal country. betsuni Dec 2021 #62

Who gives two fucks who wins the WVA primary...they always vote Republican. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #84

I am of the opinion that Hillary would have beat Trump had she been the only candidate to run. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #87

I refuse to respond to or communicate with people who helped trump, but there is a post Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 #54

You and I differ as to how and why Trump came to power and you're on the OP I started. Uncle Joe Dec 2021 #55

Unfortunately YOU feel that trump came into power because of a woman who President Obama.... George II Dec 2021 #68

Being qualified doesn't cut it. progressoid Dec 2021 #98

What "hard truth"? betsuni Dec 2021 #70

Well, there is this data from the general election. Maybe that's the "hard truth"? lapucelle Dec 2021 #74

I don't want to refight the primary... so I can't really reply except to point out Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #83

None of that changes the hard truth of the general election data. lapucelle Dec 2021 #90

And in the case of WVA, the person who wins the primary has no chance of winning the General. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #97

That's very interesting, but the data cited about the Sanders to Trump voters lapucelle Dec 2021 #101

I have no idea what you are talking about...my point was some vote for candidates in a Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #104

Are you suggesting that those Sanders to Trump voters were GOP ratfuckers? nt SunSeeker Jan 2022 #105

Those numbers are that out of the ordinary. progressoid Dec 2021 #99

The hard truth remains that the number of Sanders to Trump votes exceeded lapucelle Dec 2021 #100

The hardest truth remains that progressoid Dec 2021 #102

Yes, well someone up thread seems to think that his opinion lapucelle Dec 2021 #103