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In reply to the discussion: A Big Problem With the 1/6 Coup Attempt [View all]Solly Mack
(96,396 posts)the U.S government.
Congress is part of the U.S. government and an attack on Congress is an attack on the government of America.
The attack was violent. The attack was deadly. The attack was armed.
Be it stick, rock, or flagpole - when used to harm another, you are armed.
Anything you pick up along the way to use as a weapon while engaging in a forceful takeover is you being armed.
By their words of violence - kill the Vice-President, kill the Speaker of the House (both in the immediate line of succession) - coupled with their actions to take control of the Capitol through force and violence shows their intent in doing exactly what they did.
Their motive was to stop the legal certification of a legal election that was legally won by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
They wanted to buy time, force the issue, and help install the loser of a legitimate election back into office.
Trump was ready to act in the event things went his way.
Members of Congress, in both the House and the Senate, were ready to act if events went their way.
Just because a coup attempt fails doesn't mean there wasn't intent to commit one.
Prior to January 6th, 2021, Trump, members of his administration - both current and former - as well as members of Congress, republican pundits, republican "news" services and personalities, and assorted other right-wing talking heads and groups, to include lawyers and big-money donors, all came together to promote and finance the lie that Trump won the election and that the Democratic Party stole it from him.
All of those people were engaged in Sedition. They were riling their followers up and inciting them to act against the U.S. government.
The resulting violence shows their words were not merely hyperbolic or a matter of exercising their right to free speech.
They showed intent.
The more we learn, the more we know there was a plot to displace the legitimate winners of the election - Biden/Harris - and reinstate the outgoing, lame-duck president - Trump.
This plot involves the office of the President, his administration, and members of Congress - people who have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
All of them used the power of their office, their access to the Press and through official social media accounts, to incite their supporters to engage in violence against the U.S. government as part of the larger plan to stage a coup.
Such could easily be defined as committing treason because what the videos before and on January 6th - and the constant incitement across all forms of media before, during, and after - show us is that they were intent on waging war against the U.S. government and its election process.
That some of the plotters were members of government themselves in no way means they couldn't also wage war against the government. Nor does it excuse their actions.
With Trump as their leader, members of Congress as their Generals, and an army of insurrectionists ready to take control of Congress - to hunt down and kill the Vice-President and the Speaker of the House - they all came together for the purpose of, and to achieve their goal, in overturning a legal election.
This was a multi-level effort, with various groups of people actually plotting and planning to take control of Congress, to install the losing candidate as President.
There were varying levels of involvement by different groups of people but all with the same goal.
Sedition, Treason, failed coup, insurrection?
Yes - all of the above.
Different groups of people at different points in time are guilty of one or the other, with some guilty of two or more - depending on the actions they engaged in before and on January 6th.
But all of them had the same intent, the same goal.
They were a threat to America on January 6, 2021.
They are a threat to America still.
And they should all be treated as such.
To pretend otherwise is to invite greater violence and harm to the country, its people, and our government.