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In reply to the discussion: A Big Problem With the 1/6 Coup Attempt [View all]CrankyMa
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The conspiracy portion of this J6 event is still in the works. Some of these bad guys have as many as six superseding indictments. That means a new Grand Jury had to meet and decide if new charges would be recommended and decided "yes" as many as six times. GWU is keeping a list of who has been charged and how their cases are going here: https://extremism.gwu.edu/Capitol-Hill-Cases
Most of the folks who have been processed already, such as the college student Gracyn Dawn Courtright who had never voted and didn't know the difference between the White House and the Congressional building, are "low hanging fruit" and relatively easy cases to prosecute: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2021/12/17/former-university-kentucky-student-gracyn-courtright-sentenced-capitol-riot-case/6355152001/ .
Here is her sentencing agreement for the curious: https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/Gracyn%20Courtright%20Plea%20Agreement.pdf
This is appropriate for her as she's just a dum-dum who got caught up in something she didn't understand.
But entering the Capitol wasn't just a "mistake" on her part. The crowd was led with some planning by the militia groups. For example, Alex Jones told the crowd on the west side of the building that Trump was going to speak on the east side (not true) to get some of the crowd to move over there. Once part of the crowd got moved to the east side, they got physically shepherded up the steps by militia folks for "cover". That took planning.
Others, such as Matthew Greene, are medium ticket offenders. Greene was fairly new to the political process having been recruited into the Proud Boys about 4 months before the Capitol riot.
Greene's statement of offense https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1458266/download says that he 'intended to intimidate government personnel to affect the outcome of an election.' This is a terrorism charge dressed up in "nice" language and is being used to squeeze Greene- and it's working.
Greene has reached a plea agreement https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1458261/download to turn evidence that's quite harsh and may require him to seek refuge in the Witness Protection Program. His plea agreement says, among other things, that he can apply for witness protection but there is no guarantee he will be accepted. That's gotta be pretty scary for him- not having a guarantee of protection- but he's taking the deal anyway. He has to give up a lot with no guarantees. He really has no choice. As a new but enthusiastic recruit, he really doesn't have much loyalty to the group if that loyalty means a terrorism charge and a long prison term.
The big ticket offenders on the GWU list are the ones with 5 and 6 superseding indictments and they are the ones looking at conspiracy charges with possible terrorism enhancements. There are about 16 of those in the works. They are mostly from the groups the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and I think there are a couple of Three percenters in there as well.
Enrique Tarrio, who was the leader of the Proud Boys, is thanking God every day that he got popped by the cops the night before the riot and wasn't physically present although he is still in jail for the burning of the BLM flag and illegal gun magazines (he gets out in January). But he's not "safe" either because not only is he implicated in the planning of the attack (see Greens documents. It's likely Tarrio who was supposed to get the secure radio communication set these guys were using to coordinate their movements that day but Tarrio got busted the night before with illegal magazines and for the BLM flag burning so was required to leave DC that night). It's also been revealed that Tarrio was an FBI informant for several years. That's not going to go over well with his militia buddies.
Who wants to take a bet that this Proud Boy Leader/FBI informant's arrest and removal from DC the night before the big event was just a coincidence? Not me!
These militia folks were in contact with and planned actions with each other (conspiracy)before and during the riot and they were quite likely to have been in contact with some political figures as well. This is where what is publicly know dries up. The investigators have to document the lines between folks like Tarrio, Roger Stone, Alex Jones (Joe Biggs's friend), the couple of named politicians and eventually to Trump. That takes time and evidence. Trump, who famously doesn't email or text, may think he's protected because he doesn't have any email or text evidence but he does use his phone and his aids like Mark Meadows. When the shit really hits the fan, nobody really wants to go to prison for someone else's crimes and will turn evidence to get their best deal- even if that deal isn't all that great, like Greene is doing.
If you look at the GWU list, some "big names" don't have a lot of information available. See Joe Biggs for example. Biggs is also a Proud Boy leader but there is only one document under his name, a charging document. He was also a Proud Boy leader, at the riot, and entered the Capitol building. You would think he would be one of the guys with several superseding indictments but he's not. There's a reason for that. We don't know what the reason is at this time but the smart money says that he's also turning evidence... and that he has a lot of evidence.
AND some names are completely missing from the list. Tarrio is missing. That's odd. He's certainly easy to find. He's right there in the DC jail.
And the antifa group no-showed this event all together. Somehow they knew it was a set-up.
Sometimes what is not in the news is as or even more interesting as what is!
And don't forget that none of these militia creeps will ever be able to own a gun again.
CA