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MADem

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280. Al Gore and Hunter Lovins do a much better job. And they don't just articulate problems.

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:10 PM

Oct 2012

They propose solutions.

The unfortunate truth is that a lot of Republicans covertly adore MM. They believe that he draws issues so cartoonishly that he creates a sense that even moderate Dems who support anything he's carping about are somehow "wild-eyed radicals." His best feature, to their mind, is that he'll move an independent to the right--precisely the thing we don't want. He's not just their favorite whipping boy, he's their favorite tool. So he's not always "finding a way." It might look like that, but he tends to help the GOP more than he helps the Dems. When that happens, it DOES affect my life. Given a choice, I prefer to see Democrats in the WH, and in the majority in the legislature.

I can't speak to the man's "honesty." I don't keep his books or know a thing about his private life. I do know that he does have more than a few "Do as I say, not as I do" disconnects in his public associations that are rather glaring, and I notice them and look askance.

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Check out what Michael Moore has just posted on his FB page... [View all] Turborama Oct 2012 OP

I could really give a shit about what Michael Moore has to say right now. MADem Oct 2012 #1

There's one more debate to go. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #3

I think the only context for oil in a "Foreign Policy" debate will be in the context of WAR. MADem Oct 2012 #11

Wow. MM is fat? Fucking brilliant criticism. Way to link DirkGently Oct 2012 #53

Get over yourself--I wasn't linking to the article, I was linking to the PICTURE. MADem Oct 2012 #68

Oh boy. And Al Gore ate a sea bass, so Global Warming is a hoax, right? DirkGently Oct 2012 #128

Try to follow along. Michael Moore stole this "issue" from Al Gore. MADem Oct 2012 #130

+100 n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #226

He's been involved in this election from the start. savannah43 Oct 2012 #246

Yeah, sure he has--he's been all over twitter and facebook, gathering names! MADem Oct 2012 #260

+1 politicasista Oct 2012 #261

Exactly. raouldukelives Oct 2012 #373

No, they suck. MADem Oct 2012 #381

Bravo!!! spaulettea Oct 2012 #166

Looks like you don't know much about MM and have fallen for the multi million dollar sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #145

Oh please. Talking points my ass. MADem Oct 2012 #154

Did he really "shit" on John Kerry, ronnie624 Oct 2012 #159

First you say I don't make any sense, then you want me to do your homework for you. MADem Oct 2012 #179

Al Gore nichomachus Oct 2012 #60

You made my point. MADem Oct 2012 #72

You;re completely RIGHT! Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #83

Well, I didn't say that either. Not even close. MADem Oct 2012 #85

then what did you post because all i see is tripe Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #99

You have reading comprehension issues, then. MADem Oct 2012 #104

Great job of harming the president Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #169

He isn't affecting my vote for Obama. He's only harming himself, in my opinion. Zalatix Oct 2012 #181

That is your vote. There are other voters. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #185

I see your point. I did some of what you did Zalatix Oct 2012 #190

Your characterizations are untrue and rather pathetic. MADem Oct 2012 #184

Smug and clueless. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #186

"Those like you?" Really. How childish of you! MADem Oct 2012 #194

You were that Democratic headquarters' cross to bear. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #195

I think you're talking about yourself, there, dear. MADem Oct 2012 #198

Oh we know you weren't one of the "headquarters" guys. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #247

"We" know what you're all about, too. Keep talking. It's revealing. MADem Oct 2012 #251

A tale of two posts Zalatix Oct 2012 #192

Well, you don't read very carefully, now, do you? MADem Oct 2012 #196

"untrue and rather pathetic" RetroLounge Oct 2012 #395

Why are you being so uncivil? What do you hope to gain? MADem Oct 2012 #404

Moore is not my hero, you are... RetroLounge Oct 2012 #408

For you MADem LuvLoogie Oct 2012 #183

I'm with you on this treestar Oct 2012 #108

It isn't lost on me, either, that he lifted AL GORE's issue, here. MADem Oct 2012 #113

You make some very good points here. redqueen Oct 2012 #189

Thank you. I have no objection to the message. MADem Oct 2012 #200

That's because you are rude and condescending. /nt October Oct 2012 #206

I think you confuse your mirror with me, to put it politely. nt MADem Oct 2012 #219

Point proven. October Oct 2012 #385

You "read" a thread by ascribing motives/characterizations to me? MADem Oct 2012 #389

Another here who hears your salient and valid critiques of MM hiphopnation Oct 2012 #230

Your comments are appreciated. MADem Oct 2012 #231

the thread has somewhat devolved into nonsense and namecalling, too hiphopnation Oct 2012 #237

It's always the way when that guy's name comes up. MADem Oct 2012 #241

Shoot the messenger, avoid the message altogether. Great strategy. NOT. Zalatix Oct 2012 #119

Put your little gun away. Your misrepresentation is deliberate, obvious, and tiresome. MADem Oct 2012 #126

You apparently have no choice but to retreat to personal insults and invective, ronnie624 Oct 2012 #142

Look who's talking! Nobody does it better than you! MADem Oct 2012 #146

Your words make sense. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #149

They are entirely consistent with the facts. MADem Oct 2012 #157

Just *saying* your words are consistent with the facts doesn't mean that they are. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #162

I'm entirely calm--you're the one playing tag team wrestling with your little friend. MADem Oct 2012 #172

Oh so now it's a conspiracy against you! Zalatix Oct 2012 #178

Why are you hyper-replying to me? MADem Oct 2012 #187

Hyper-replying? What does THAT mean? Zalatix Oct 2012 #191

You chase me all over this thread, and you try to incite a pile-on in very uncivil fashion. MADem Oct 2012 #203

You're all over this thread. Talk about hyper-posting. October Oct 2012 #210

I am the one who posted the argument in opposition to the OP. MADem Oct 2012 #213

Wrong. October Oct 2012 #387

I haven't insulted anyone. MADem Oct 2012 #388

The problem with you is that your erroneous "reasoning" is in plain English Zalatix Oct 2012 #167

Yeah, yeah, sure -- whatever you say, now...! MADem Oct 2012 #390

LOL you can DISH IT OUT but you can't take it? Zalatix Oct 2012 #151

I don't care what you think--but say, thanks for that great advice. MADem Oct 2012 #160

You care what I think. You keep responding. Zalatix Oct 2012 #164

I only respond when you write yet another falsehood about my perspective or person. MADem Oct 2012 #216

I already know peace. Michael Moore was not wrong. Not one thing he said was wrong. Zalatix Oct 2012 #298

Who save you said he was "wrong?" Stop making thing up -- it is so easy to see that's what you are MADem Oct 2012 #303

If he's not wrong then you have absolutely no case. Zalatix Oct 2012 #308

Are you leaving home? Is that your suit case by the door? MADem Oct 2012 #312

You don't even understand what the word 'case' means, do you? Zalatix Oct 2012 #327

I know it's not a synonym for OPINION--but you're acting like it is. MADem Oct 2012 #329

Your opinions are based on gross factual errors. That is being charitable. Zalatix Oct 2012 #331

Keep your charity--you plainly need it. And no, my opinions are grounded in facts. nt MADem Oct 2012 #333

You accused Michael Moore of stealing from Al Gore. This is factually untrue. Zalatix Oct 2012 #336

That's because MaDem has been nailed right to the wall. A temper tantrum was to be expected. Zalatix Oct 2012 #148

Every single time. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #152

Your fixation on me and false characterizations about me are very curious. MADem Oct 2012 #168

Fixation? We're just disputing your points. Apparently you feel beset upon? Zalatix Oct 2012 #170

I think you need a larger spoon. nt MADem Oct 2012 #223

It is a shame kenfrequed Oct 2012 #163

FWIW, I think Lieberman is a craven asshole, too. MADem Oct 2012 #171

He is not the one that badmouthed Dems on Twitter after the 1st debate politicasista Oct 2012 #400

Bingo--well said Supersedeas Oct 2012 #411

What misrepresentations? I am totally correct in saying you are shooting the messenger. Zalatix Oct 2012 #147

He's not dead. MADem Oct 2012 #236

You are shooting the messenger and NOT even remotely addressing the message. Zalatix Oct 2012 #275

No, I am not. MADem Oct 2012 #287

Yes, you are. Full stop. Zalatix Oct 2012 #299

No. And you're not "telling the truth." MADem Oct 2012 #300

None of these points are untrue: Zalatix Oct 2012 #306

Yes, they are untrue. And your claims are absurd in the extreme. MADem Oct 2012 #318

I cited your personal attacks. My claims are proven. You don't have counter examples. Zalatix Oct 2012 #325

Sorry--you are wrong. No sale. And you have a nice day too. nt MADem Oct 2012 #328

I am right and you are wrong. My cites are all true and logical. And you have no counter facts. Zalatix Oct 2012 #330

Yeah, sure, sure, whatever you say. MADem Oct 2012 #340

Clueless. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #173

I'm not finding your attempts at insult very interesting. MADem Oct 2012 #239

But it is a form of attention that you can't resist. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #272

Wait, you started it with the insults. With several people, no less. Zalatix Oct 2012 #297

There you go again--making stuff up. MADem Oct 2012 #304

Here you go again - denying the facts. I hereby cite the proof that you instigate insults. Zalatix Oct 2012 #307

Get a grip. Really. That's not a personal attack, either--it's a genuine concern with regard to MADem Oct 2012 #338

It's a personal attack. And concern for others' well being? Physician, heal thyself. Zalatix Oct 2012 #339

Yeah, yeah, sure -- whatever you say, now...! MADem Oct 2012 #341

one more debate to go...? BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #45

I posted that before the 3rd debate started. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #65

No.. this was the LAST debate before the election--3 Presidential & one VP--done hlthe2b Oct 2012 #51

Yes, and if you look at the timestamp, I posted it BEFORE AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #66

In fact, MM spent a good chunk of Obama's first term cheerleading for him radiclib Oct 2012 #9

+1 lunasun Oct 2012 #10

+++++ marions ghost Oct 2012 #13

He lives in a million dollar lake house with a true value close to double that. MADem Oct 2012 #16

You talk about Michael Moore Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #48

No, I don't. Read all my comments, my critique is much more nuanced. MADem Oct 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #87

Why are YOU even here?? Welcome to DU. MADem Oct 2012 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #100

You have some reading to do. MADem Oct 2012 #105

Exactly, +10 n/t Cleita Oct 2012 #136

Please allow me to add that he made movies exposing the establishment--the 1% savannah43 Oct 2012 #252

Lets see... 99Forever Oct 2012 #58

Well said! Puglover Oct 2012 #59

Let's see? Gee, let's see! MADem Oct 2012 #74

Have you even looked at his career? Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #89

Yes, I have, and you might do the same. nt MADem Oct 2012 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #102

!!! Sorry, but.... MiddleFingerMom Oct 2012 #91

I am highly motivated to re-elect Barack Obama. nt MADem Oct 2012 #111

Comparing? 99Forever Oct 2012 #135

You might try reading the subthread. MADem Oct 2012 #143

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #351

This message was self-deleted by its author MrScorpio Oct 2012 #354

Posting pictures of his house? Trying to get the guy killed or something? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #86

You can't POSSIBLY be that obtuse. MADem Oct 2012 #103

So then you agree climate change should have been addressed in the debates? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #106

Absolutely. I think it is an important issue. MADem Oct 2012 #114

So you actually agree with the idea, but just think it should get in the closet until later. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #116

No. You aren't doing very well telling me what I think. MADem Oct 2012 #121

Your point: 1) Don't bring up climate change right now. 2) Michael Moore is a lard ass. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #139

No, and No. MADem Oct 2012 #150

Climate change should have been in the debates, and in the campaigns. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #218

The point of the thread was not that--it was to highlight MM's "moments before the last debate" MADem Oct 2012 #222

LOL Wrong again. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #249

"LOL Wrong again" right back atcha. MADem Oct 2012 #257

Climate change is not going to "get in the closet" during election season. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #267

It never came out of the closet, or its Barcolounger, or where ever it is hanging, no thanks to MM. MADem Oct 2012 #277

What is the reason climate change was not discussed during the Presidential election? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #281

He didn't just "share a graphic on facebook." MADem Oct 2012 #288

... limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #290

You too--nice chat! I enjoyed it. nt MADem Oct 2012 #291

Michael Moore is NOT late to the issue. He's been talking about Climate Change for sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #238

I haven't seen him do it. You'd think someone who can appear all over my TV MADem Oct 2012 #250

So now you know what a majority of Democrats are thinking because they do and sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #259

You need to stop putting words in my mouth. MADem Oct 2012 #262

What??? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #264

No, that's not what I said, but nice try. MADem Oct 2012 #270

+10 politicasista Oct 2012 #398

Prosense misses Al too! nt MADem Oct 2012 #401

Yes she does! politicasista Oct 2012 #402

+++++++++ newfie11 Oct 2012 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #84

What? treestar Oct 2012 #110

+1...nt SidDithers Oct 2012 #12

LOL, bury your head! Brilliant!!! Logical Oct 2012 #22

+1,000! I totally agree Zalatix Oct 2012 #24

Just because I think Michael Moore is a craven opportunist doesn't mean I don't think that MADem Oct 2012 #32

I wouldn't loose sleep over Michael Moore, MADem... MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #35

He won't have any "brilliant" topics unless he's got a "W" or a "RMoney" to crab about. MADem Oct 2012 #39

Is everyone who makes money from their own talents, politicians eg, artists, sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #243

No--but the ones who trash an environmental leader in the Democratic Party MADem Oct 2012 #265

I like the way he talks. He talks about the issues I care about as a Democrat. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #271

Al Gore and Hunter Lovins do a much better job. And they don't just articulate problems. MADem Oct 2012 #280

You claim your points are "nuanced?" savannah43 Oct 2012 #253

LOL Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #258

Your contribution to this discussion is nominal, at best. MADem Oct 2012 #266

That word 'nuanced'... does not mean what he/she think it means. Zalatix Oct 2012 #309

^^^^^ Perfection^^^^^ LovingA2andMI Oct 2012 #42

That's one of the worst things I've ever read on DU dreamnightwind Oct 2012 #44

That's one of the BEST things I've ever read on DU! MADem Oct 2012 #77

Another Obama vote attacked. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #174

I suspect you are. nt MADem Oct 2012 #224

I can see you are having trouble following your own blather. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #248

I think you're the one having trouble, there, Too Clever By Half. MADem Oct 2012 #268

I see where you missed what was going on. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #273

I didn't miss a thing. You did. And your comments continue to reveal your nature. nt MADem Oct 2012 #283

I'm tired and your flailing isn't at all interesting. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #284

I really don't care about your personal life. MADem Oct 2012 #286

I can certainly understand why many trivialize the person without addressing the message itself LanternWaste Oct 2012 #54

You missed the entire point. MADem Oct 2012 #67

"old enough to remember clean air" makes me wonder how old you are.. mountain grammy Oct 2012 #71

I grew up abroad, by the sea, with much less industrialization and few cars. MADem Oct 2012 #81

I've no doubt you believe your opnions to be both accurate and verifiable LanternWaste Oct 2012 #80

Yeah, bless your little heart, too. MADem Oct 2012 #88

Pointing out MM's largess Plucketeer Oct 2012 #131

You need to look up the word "largess"--because it does not mean what you think it means. MADem Oct 2012 #134

And there you show how little you know about MM. He is EXTREMELY generous. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #156

But he DOES talk about his "generosity." He makes a point of mentioning it. MADem Oct 2012 #158

Wrong, he addressed the issue of charity after he was attacked by the money poured into sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #165

MM is not an environmentalist--he voted against one in 2000. MADem Oct 2012 #193

Were always this angry with MM? Did you expound on how fat he is and how sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #240

Our friend Plucketeer Oct 2012 #220

I don't think you are much of a friend to me. nt MADem Oct 2012 #227

You need to look up the word "nuanced." savannah43 Oct 2012 #254

I think you do. nt MADem Oct 2012 #269

How do you know JonLP24 Oct 2012 #188

I don't live in a cave. I have TV, radio, and internet, too! MADem Oct 2012 #211

Damn right MADem! Why would anyone want to talk about A Simple Game Oct 2012 #61

Nice way to not see ANY nuance in what I wrote! MADem Oct 2012 #64

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #94

Nuance? I do not think that word means what you think it means. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #175

As much as I am entrenched in environmental activism, it's my career practically... NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #176

Thank you. MADem Oct 2012 #177

You, too, can photoshop shocking messages and post them on FaceBook! NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #180

Hunter Lovins! She's brilliant, isn't she? MADem Oct 2012 #205

I'm lucky... NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #235

Wow--I've only read her stuff. Hell, I don't touch scotch but I'd buy her a barrel for an MADem Oct 2012 #285

Why yes I am concerned, thanks for noticing. I think leaving the A Simple Game Oct 2012 #282

No feet were held to any fire, though--that's the problem. MADem Oct 2012 #293

That which can not be said pakilolo Oct 2012 #90

I think it should be discussed, actually. MADem Oct 2012 #112

He was discussing global climate change throughout 2011 and 2012. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #127

Well, I'm sure you'll provide us with links to all of his "discussing" over the years. MADem Oct 2012 #138

A search of Google shows exactly what he said about the issue. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #144

Yes--and what DID he say? Do tell! MADem Oct 2012 #215

Aren't YOU the one telling everyone else that "Google is your friend"? October Oct 2012 #207

I'm not the one desperately trying to "prove" that MM's interest in this issue isn't recent. MADem Oct 2012 #214

Not me, MADem. October Oct 2012 #386

Actually he has been discussing Environmental issues since way before 2011. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #242

I'm VERY familiar with the guy. MADem Oct 2012 #294

Ad hominem attacks and invective, as usual, lurching from one non sequitur to another. n/t ronnie624 Oct 2012 #96

Yeah, sure, whatever. Did you get that subject line from MADem Oct 2012 #117

Can you post a link to it? n/t ronnie624 Oct 2012 #120

PLONK Occulus Oct 2012 #109

Anyone else but me notice how MADem COMPLETELY AVOIDED Michael Moore's message Zalatix Oct 2012 #118

I didn't completely avoid it at all--and it isn't his message--he stole it--from Al Gore. MADem Oct 2012 #124

Wait, Al Gore is the only person who can point out these things? Zalatix Oct 2012 #153

You should put the little laughing man away. MADem Oct 2012 #229

Yes. Leave Al Gore's issue ALONE! Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #263

That pretty much sums it up. Zalatix Oct 2012 #276

Way to not read a single word of the discussion. Pat yourself on the back. MADem Oct 2012 #292

There is nothing unreasonable in anything Michael Moore says. ronnie624 Oct 2012 #313

I agree with most of your commentary. MADem Oct 2012 #316

Your 'nuanced' discussion? LOL Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #371

In hindlsight Al Gore did it all wrong. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #321

The right targeted Al Gore because he was a continuation of Clinton. MADem Oct 2012 #337

I was referencing "An Inconvenient Truth" SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #353

Yes, I took your point--I was agreeing with it. MADem Oct 2012 #358

You breathe, right WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #125

FWIW, when a segment of Democrats were itching for a primary challenge to Obama, MM said merrily Oct 2012 #201

You see that really doesn't matter because there is a certain part of The Party limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #221

If you did not care, you would roody Oct 2012 #228

No, you COULDN'T really give a shit about...yadda yadda... infidel dog Oct 2012 #233

Well....I suppose I could, if I took a huge strain... MADem Oct 2012 #357

And most of DU apparently feels the same about you RetroLounge Oct 2012 #365

Pitch perfect. Just perfect. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #2

As usual, Moore nails it n/t quinnox Oct 2012 #4

My site for watching Moore during the debate is his Tweet's page. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #7

"The OP is passively for Obama"? Are you talking about me? n/t Turborama Oct 2012 #14

Ma Dem.. #2. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #17

Not always friendly towards Obama, either. MADem Oct 2012 #26

Oh so he's not a sycophant like someone else... MessiahRp Oct 2012 #37

Disgusting? Really? Grow up. MADem Oct 2012 #38

That's what Faux do all the time with Al Gore Turborama Oct 2012 #43

Al Gore--in case you didn't notice--is supportive of Democrats for election. MADem Oct 2012 #79

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #98

LOL I wasn't comparing AG to MM, I was showing how similar your spin is to Faux' Turborama Oct 2012 #115

I'm afraid you are the one with the challenge in definition. MADem Oct 2012 #129

MM did not "slap together" the graphic, it was a share from 350.org's FB page Turborama Oct 2012 #278

How good of you to correct the misapprehension that you created with your OP. MADem Oct 2012 #310

You're welcome Turborama Oct 2012 #314

It wasn't my OP. It's all yours. nt MADem Oct 2012 #342

It seems like it's you're thread now, though Turborama Oct 2012 #355

Well, that WAS your OP--so that's on you. MADem Oct 2012 #359

I provided a link which takes you to his FB page, it's not my fault that you didn't click on it Turborama Oct 2012 #361

I didn't say it had anything to do with the buttons. MADem Oct 2012 #362

Michael Moore did post it on his FB page Turborama Oct 2012 #363

I am no expert, but I understood what you describe to be a "share" not a "post." MADem Oct 2012 #364

You can view FB without being a member, just like DU Turborama Oct 2012 #366

I said I was no expert. MADem Oct 2012 #382

I didn't insist you "need" to use FB & "must" click on the link. However, your failure to click = Turborama Oct 2012 #391

Sorry, I think you're the captain of the ship. It was, after all, YOUR subject line. MADem Oct 2012 #396

You own this Failboat and are its navigator Turborama Oct 2012 #405

You lit the boilers and steered it towards shore. You set the course. It's yours, Captain. MADem Oct 2012 #406

Trouble is, you've been relying on a sextant and slide rule, while I expected you to use gps Turborama Oct 2012 #407

Sorry Cap'n! When I went to school, there was no GPS! MADem Oct 2012 #412

If you're going to be a tool about it... MessiahRp Oct 2012 #46

Really? How do I "know" that MM isn't "attempting to SINK Obama's campaign?" MADem Oct 2012 #140

Yes MM would prefer to SINK Obama and put Romney into office. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #197

It would make him quite rich. MADem Oct 2012 #204

He did NOT take 12 years to speak out about the environment. Where are you getting sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #245

No--you found one short comment from 2009 and another in 2011! MADem Oct 2012 #305

He doesn't need more money. He's not a multinational corporation, he's a human. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #255

I can't handle criticism of "my" idols? The irony is thick, here! MADem Oct 2012 #315

It's actually a pretty big subset.. I'd say you yourself are among only a very few sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #323

Well, the pundits differ. They said the F911 opus did more harm to Kerry than good--and I believe MADem Oct 2012 #326

F911 hurt Kerry as much as swiftboating? You are on DRUGS. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #347

There you go again--more invective. Don't try to ascribe your bad habits to me. MADem Oct 2012 #352

you tell MessiahRp to grow up yet MessiahRp is not the one having a temper tantrum leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #50

You're not making sense. nt MADem Oct 2012 #82

You call Michael Moore "fat" Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #56

He's not? MADem Oct 2012 #122

Well, if he's fat, I guess that does it. Don't anyone listen to a word a fat person has sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #161

I don't call him fat, though--you do. Everyone else is doing it here, too. MADem Oct 2012 #302

"I don't call him fat, though--you do. Everyone else is doing it here, too." Shining Jack Oct 2012 #374

I was referring to his lifestyle, wealth and hubris. MADem Oct 2012 #377

Hum, sure, right, whatever. Shining Jack Oct 2012 #415

Fat? Wow. I'd expect that attack... from a second grader. MessiahRp Oct 2012 #256

If it's so pathetic, stop making it. MADem Oct 2012 #343

" I really don't care what you think." RetroLounge Oct 2012 #409

This is your fifth "mocking" post. Why do you continue to behave this way? MADem Oct 2012 #410

and here's another one... RetroLounge Oct 2012 #416

Party over principles? pocoloco Oct 2012 #97

This isn't "Let's have a nice little intellectual discussion" Underground. MADem Oct 2012 #123

Check your brains at the door, people. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #418

Derp? Really? Aren't you a charmer. MADem Oct 2012 #419

MM. calls it like he sees it. He is not in love with either candidate. crunch60 Oct 2012 #41

Al Gore speaks about important issues like climate change. MADem Oct 2012 #155

Yeah Moore's issues: Health Care Reform, Corporate Greed... these are not "important". MessiahRp Oct 2012 #348

Al Gore supported Al Gore for the Presidency. MADem Oct 2012 #349

Should u read the credits of MM's film's : he's pretty much cyclezealot Oct 2012 #47

We'll have to agree to differ on that score, I'm afraid. MADem Oct 2012 #344

Some of us don't want any more uniters.. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #367

Oh but wait Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #55

He's a professional scold. MADem Oct 2012 #345

He's an American citizen who saw the lies being told by the Bush administration sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #413

You are entitled to your opinion about the guy. As am I. I am an American citizen, too. MADem Oct 2012 #414

Romney equals war. WCLinolVir Oct 2012 #57

I'm donating, volunteering and voting, and, now, thanks to this, not sleeping! mountain grammy Oct 2012 #209

great post. That video was probably the best commercial so far this year. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #295

also untold millions that go to the networks Enrique Oct 2012 #5

Van Jones just brought it up on CNN Turborama Oct 2012 #6

. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #8

Gotta Luv Me Some Michael Moore!!!!!! n/t MoonshadowLou Oct 2012 #15

One thing at a time, Mike...let's win the election first. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #18

Almost thought Obama was going to say it when Schaffer asked "What glinda Oct 2012 #19

Good catch! Turborama Oct 2012 #23

That would have been a great opportunity to say it. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #376

I thought Obama at least mentioned it in the second debate uponit7771 Oct 2012 #20

interesting response compared to the way he attacked Obama after the First Debate JI7 Oct 2012 #21

I think he likes to be on the side delivering the beat-down. MADem Oct 2012 #27

yup, why not appeal for lack of substance after that debate JI7 Oct 2012 #29

He gets rich whining about Republicans. MADem Oct 2012 #30

The OP was posted before the debate, not after Turborama Oct 2012 #31

We've moved on to talking about his post-debate "tweets." MADem Oct 2012 #33

He ain't gone do it. Requires courage. politicasista Oct 2012 #234

actually it was 360 minutes dsc Oct 2012 #25

He's right. femrap Oct 2012 #28

"You've convinced me. Now go out and make me do it." --FDR Strat0 Oct 2012 #34

Not exactly on topic, but I don't think FDR waited for anyone to make him do anything. merrily Oct 2012 #199

As I understand it Strat0 Oct 2012 #392

Rec the sentiment, not sure that Michael is very Eco-minded tho RiverStone Oct 2012 #36

+1 Go Vols Oct 2012 #40

My husband made a good point at the debate watch tonight eridani Oct 2012 #49

Is what Moore says true? sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #52

Thank You Michael Moore Shireling Oct 2012 #62

He's a "Democrat" lol! politicasista Oct 2012 #397

Lots of issues weren't discussed because Romney refused to get specific on anything stevenleser Oct 2012 #63

Michael is right. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #69

Omitting climate from the debates was extremely irresponsible, limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #70

CSM had an interesting article on the "why" of that decision. MADem Oct 2012 #346

kick for truth Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #75

We know Obama's postition and we know Romney's, that's good enough for voting Democat Oct 2012 #76

Thanks For Your Efforts to Reelect President Obama rbrnmw Oct 2012 #95

Michael's right, big oil is theirs, IOW, more reason to vote for OBAMA. Festivito Oct 2012 #101

What is there to debate? kirby Oct 2012 #107

well heaven05 Oct 2012 #132

Amen brother. And the Corpote Media as accompliss harun Oct 2012 #133

Corporate tentacles run deep. woo me with science Oct 2012 #370

Global climate change is real and Cleita Oct 2012 #137

+1000. exactly. nt limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #212

And once we talk about this, there's another bigger topic behind it that we have to get to. Gregorian Oct 2012 #141

Whooot! REC # 200. Coyotl Oct 2012 #182

Not even true. mattclearing Oct 2012 #202

+1 politicasista Oct 2012 #232

I just read this article before coming here: SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #208

$4.50 a gallon for gas locally is not helping me nor anyone in this area. Cleita Oct 2012 #217

Then why is the cost of oil soaring? Here in Southern Ca it is nearly $5.00 a gal. So sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #244

... politicasista Oct 2012 #225

Thank goodness MM doesn't listen to the idiots, Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #274

KNR for Moore's excellent, un-refuted point. DirkGently Oct 2012 #279

Wow. Somebody has gone insane on this thread, and it ain't Michael Moore. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #289

Showing your class, I see. nt MADem Oct 2012 #296

You're still at it? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #334

Warren is in a tight contest. It's starting to get very dirty on the Brown side. MADem Oct 2012 #360

Frontline: Climate of Doubt pointed out that Obama... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #301

Climate of Doubt also gave a platform to the people who say that climate change isn't real. MADem Oct 2012 #311

That was the most depressing Frontline EVER! Ayn Rand, CATO, David Koch . . . . SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #319

It came on in my market this evening--I had to change the channel. I had the same reaction you did. MADem Oct 2012 #332

There may be a linchpin that would collapse the whole movement. Or Van Jones SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #350

Good. Americans need to know who these fuckers are, WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #417

I think, long view, this is the next big thing to talk about. MADem Oct 2012 #420

Climate change is one of the issues that pisses me off ProSense Oct 2012 #317

Watch this and you'll find out why nothing will be done . . . SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #320

As a relatively new member here... lexx21 Oct 2012 #322

Your post is fine. I agree with it completely. Posts slamming Liberals like MM sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #324

Did you mean to direct that towards me? MADem Oct 2012 #356

A few questions whatchamacallit Oct 2012 #368

Surely you know the answer to this question you pose, unless you're Rip Van Winkle. MADem Oct 2012 #379

At the risk of being ripped to shreds here.... lexx21 Oct 2012 #383

If you get ripped, it won't be me doing it. MADem Oct 2012 #384

"I find MM divisive" RetroLounge Oct 2012 #378

Only you could possibly think that expressing an OPINION on a DISCUSSION board is somehow MADem Oct 2012 #380

Yes, only me! RetroLounge Oct 2012 #394

Yes. It's the new DU woo me with science Oct 2012 #369

Green Jobs were mentioned in the First Debate JI7 Oct 2012 #335

To be fair, Obama did mention global warming in the first debate, IIRC. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #372

President supports an "all of the above" energy strategy. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #375

Yep he has politicasista Oct 2012 #403

K&R woo me with science Oct 2012 #393

K&R. (nt) Kurovski Oct 2012 #399