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The Wizard

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46. Conscripted soldiers

Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:14 PM

Dec 2021

do not like being in uniform and are more likely to refuse orders to overthrow a duly elected government that they prefer to live under when returning home. Eugene McCarthy made this argument for the draft at the height of the Vietnam War he opposed.
Career soldiers are reliant on the military for just about everything and more inclined to listen to wrongful orders. They have no where else to go.

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Retired general warns the U.S. military could lead a coup after the 2024 election [View all] Lasher Dec 2021 OP

Who would instigate it? Generals? Renegade troops? LiberalFighter Dec 2021 #1

The author is saying could be rank and file and higher up. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #15

I fear the military. twodogsbarking Dec 2021 #2

Right now it is ridiculous, but ever flip of democracy to not democracy needs military support. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #9

I already stated some think it is ridiculous. twodogsbarking Dec 2021 #19

And I still say that's ridiculous. nt MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #21

I can see that. twodogsbarking Dec 2021 #31

Hey, we all have our difference of opinions, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #39

And you'd STILL be correct. It's just absurd. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #44

It is. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #43

Washington Post article link (no paywall teach1st Dec 2021 #3

It's bugged me that the military confidently assume mahina Dec 2021 #6

Can the President fire a general? tavernier Dec 2021 #4

Sure, Obama fired McChrystal Ligyron Dec 2021 #7

tRump fired anyone he pleased, legal or not and by the time the courts sort it out what does Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #10

Lincoln fired McClellan. Truman fired MacArthur. Obama fired McChrystal. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #14

Penguins, probably. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2021 #53

... WHITT Dec 2021 #5

That assumes one believes... Whatthe_Firetruck Dec 2021 #42

They won't need the military, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #8

Nope. The safeguards and rail guards of democracy are battered, but repairable, lots of time. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #11

If Democrats fail to pass legislation, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #13

The chronology up to the Supreme Court may be correct, but disagree the highest court, Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #28

They didn't help Trump this last time. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #48

We were warned way back in 1964 by the movie Seven Days in May, great time for a rewatch. nt yaesu Dec 2021 #12

We already have at least one retired general leading a coup: Mike Flynn. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #16

Yea and what bothers me is bluestarone Dec 2021 #20

Yep, still trying to overthrow the US government. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #32

Even worse, his brother is still in the ranks, and very high in them. GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #29

Yes, brother is high ranking active duty who lied to congress Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #35

I suspect Charles Flynn was sent to the Pacific to get him PufPuf23 Dec 2021 #54

Exactly. The military has a way of sending you to far flung Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #55

Hawaii? Hardly an isolation assignment. COL Mustard Jan 2022 #64

I have been saying that for a long time, the military is a totalitarian regime by nature Escurumbele Dec 2021 #17

How could the military have acted on January 6th, though? Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #24

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #52

The military would split, too much diversity. Jon King Dec 2021 #18

The entire military does not call the shots. Chainfire Dec 2021 #23

Are they not taught how to recognize and respond to illegal orders? Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #25

It's beaten into our heads from day one MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #27

That's what I thought, though again, I never served. Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #36

Happy New Year to you and your family. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #37

Of course new troops have an quick and basic introduction to the UCMJ Chainfire Dec 2021 #30

You overestimate most Americans. Celerity Dec 2021 #45

Seems like there is some concern about a corrupt military. twodogsbarking Jan 2022 #60

From the interview: "I see it as LOW probability" brooklynite Dec 2021 #22

Thank You!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #26

The problem is who makes the decision of what is and what is not a legal order. Chainfire Dec 2021 #34

The interpretation would mainly fall to the Officer's and NCO's ranks, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #38

I agree with Chainfire. Lasher Dec 2021 #41

And that's why I said that it would likely fall to the NCO's and Officer's Corps, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #51

The same to you and yours Lasher Jan 2022 #56

But high impact, as you say. Lasher Dec 2021 #33

I just hope llashram Dec 2021 #40

Roger that. The Wizard Dec 2021 #47

Conscripted soldiers The Wizard Dec 2021 #46

There has to be a certain number of "grunts", though, who are right wing trash. Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #49

And Oath Keepers VGNonly Jan 2022 #57

Same shit, different packaging. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2022 #61

The biggest danger of a divided military Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #50

And possibly an enemy in on the plot. CrackityJones75 Jan 2022 #58

Absolutely. Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #59

like trump's puppet master llashram Jan 2022 #62

yup CrackityJones75 Jan 2022 #63