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56. I see handwaving and hiding behind the words of others

Reply to Wildcat1955 (Reply #54)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:47 AM

Oct 2012

Stand up for your own words. I mean, if you can.

I'm surprised to see someone calling themself "pro birth" and crying about those mean mean progressives ... and doing it with a straight face.

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Being pro-choice means being, on some level, for bodily autonomy... [View all] Humanist_Activist Oct 2012 OP

Disagree Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #1

"Culture of life"? What's with this right wing framing? Humanist_Activist Oct 2012 #2

Independence Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #5

Uh, no women does feel that abortion is her only option. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #20

I think what Wildcat is saying is that we should make sure that every woman does have a choice Marrah_G Oct 2012 #26

#26 Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #34

Agreed. For a "pro-life" crowd they make it absolutely terrifying to have children. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #39

Not every woman who gets pregnant wants a(nother) child REP Oct 2012 #45

No no... I wasnt saying things should coerce any woman to give birth Marrah_G Oct 2012 #62

Can we define some terms so we can discuss this without insults or assumptions? uppityperson Oct 2012 #71

"but as an issue ethical concerns are paramount" says you Coexist Oct 2012 #3

Ethical commitments Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #7

Sometimes abortion IS the more ethical choice. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #21

Agree! REP Oct 2012 #47

No. I imagine depression or being scared about being pregnant Coexist Oct 2012 #83

Yes and thank you. REP Oct 2012 #46

Welcome to DU and enjoy your stay. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #4

Medical alone Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #6

You are assuming a lot about this woman. Iris Oct 2012 #9

Assuming? Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #10

Yes. Assuming. Iris Oct 2012 #12

I didn't consult with anyone liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #52

Sure it can be a medical decision alone. And its not a "human life". Its a clump of cells. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #29

Interference Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #37

You won't last long here. Believing that life begins at conception isn't progressive riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #42

How Pathetic Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #61

No, left alone, it becomes nothing gollygee Oct 2012 #66

You are wrong. The majority of women have no regrets after an abortion REP Oct 2012 #48

And that is up to that individual woman to decide. MineralMan Oct 2012 #74

Seeks counsel? You're a real piece of work. ceile Oct 2012 #75

until the theists fund the programs RainDog Oct 2012 #59

Oh, right. Culture of life. gollygee Oct 2012 #65

Take a hike, noob leftstreet Oct 2012 #8

Disrespect? Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #11

Arrogant? Iris Oct 2012 #13

Yep Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #15

Whose ethics? Yours? Iris Oct 2012 #16

I just threw up in my mouth a little REP Oct 2012 #57

Under no circumstance would I carry a fetus to term. Ever. MadrasT Oct 2012 #63

Funny how there's no answer to you or me on this from our "pro-birth" champion REP Oct 2012 #78

What is "pro-birth"? Please clarify for me. I agree, I'd like women to have all the assistance they uppityperson Oct 2012 #70

the derp is stong in this one datasuspect Oct 2012 #72

Because we don't believe in reproductive slavery ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #77

I'm just sick of old man fetus huggers who give no shits about women. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #14

Amen! Iris Oct 2012 #17

Amazing Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #18

I still find it amazing that you choose to jump into a thred about one of the most controversial Iris Oct 2012 #24

Was I talking to you? No, I wasn't. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #31

RE: bodily autonomy porphyrian Oct 2012 #19

military drafts Iris Oct 2012 #22

At least we got rid of those...for now. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #23

Young men still have to register when they turn 18. Iris Oct 2012 #25

True. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #27

My mother is against abortion, but she doesn't want women to die who choose to have them... cynatnite Oct 2012 #28

And there's also the other side. If a government can tell you you MUST have a baby, it can also tell Iris Oct 2012 #30

"it can also tell you you cannot" -- that is the REAL "pro-abortion" position. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #68

Presumption Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #32

Not quite true. You did lay out a coercive plan for women who find themselves in this position. Iris Oct 2012 #33

No Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #38

Why should a woman have to consult anyone else besides her doctor? Lars39 Oct 2012 #50

Exactly. This is exactly what I'm saying. Iris Oct 2012 #82

Its not exclusion although you can try to spin it that way. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #35

I disagree. Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #40

What else are you progressive about? Iris Oct 2012 #43

Progressive Positions Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #51

I strongly disagree with you on the pro-birth position but liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #55

#55 Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #60

Pro-Environmet and Pro-Birth? Viking12 Oct 2012 #76

Nope, its not. But good luck with that position. Pro CHOICE and Pro-Medical Privacy are progressive riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #44

Boo hoo hoo REP Oct 2012 #49

+1000 Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #53

Rep Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #54

I see handwaving and hiding behind the words of others REP Oct 2012 #56

Tell me about it. Exactly half of this person's post are on THIS thread. Alerts mean nothing here. Iris Oct 2012 #64

???? Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #67

More boo-hooing; still no addressing the issues. Not at all surprised. REP Oct 2012 #79

This is my body. Avalux Oct 2012 #36

Understand Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #41

Medical ethics boards are not involved for every medical procedure. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #58

Why is it that people against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place? backscatter712 Oct 2012 #69

The War on Drugs really negates the "right to do with one's own body" argument... Romulox Oct 2012 #73

I wish those would be brought up more REP Oct 2012 #80

Enter the fetus teleporter. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #81