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In reply to the discussion: Check out what Michael Moore has just posted on his FB page... [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)I question MM's motives, and a small subset of acolytes goes BALLISTIC on me. I'm not allowed to have an opinion about MM that differs from the "All Hail The Man From Flint" perspective that pervades. Talk about your "narrow minded, myopic, black and white view of politics!" All Hail Moore--or ELSE!
Take a good look at what I've said about the guy. I don't think MM is terribly relevant to this election, and I'd prefer that he keep it that way. He fucked Al Gore in 2000, his F911 had the opposite effect on independent voters than was hoped in 2004, which screwed John Kerry as much as the Swiftboating did, and he wasn't terribly helpful in 08, though he did do a lot of shit-stirring during the primary. He also wrote a "humorous(?)" election guide that year, and made some money off of that. He's a scold and a windmill tilter, and he's successful at that. That's why he's stinking rich.
Because I note that the man is stinking rich, that's not a "personal attack." And my noting his wealth doesn't "show how weak (my) argument is." It's just a fact that the guy is rich. Deal with that. That personal attack" phrase is over-used, and you're contributing to that with your misapplication of the term here. Surely you are not claiming he's not wealthier than anyone most people know? That he doesn't have enormous investments and a huge foundation where a massive portion of his funds are sequestered? That he isn't a real estate mogul of substantial proportions?
I think there's a crew up in Canada who will take VERY STRONG issue with you trying to give the credit for the genesis of Occupy to Moore. He was an early OWS cheerleader, but he didn't light that fire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street#Origins
I think MM's motivations have at least as much to do with his personal aggrandizement and the securing of his personal fortune as "helping the country." You have a different view. You won't change my mind, I won't change yours, I'm sure. The difference is, I'm just expressing my opinion--I'm not calling you names or questioning your character or your bona fides.