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Celerity

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19. Without seeing exactly what you said, I hope you at least appealed
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jan 2022

If any and all legitimate (and this certainly is legitimate) criticism of Manchin and/or Sinema was banned, I would not be long for the board. I do not play robotic 'toe the party's most rightward line possible, be it right or wrong' games. Many here do not, thank dog. That goose-step mentality is for the Rethugs to manifest, as they only seek to destroy and then rule the resultant wasteland.

Conversely, a small, overly vocal group here desperately wants that further rightward lurch to become the party's principal modus operandi, ie move as rightward as possible, purge as much of the left as is possible. They adore punching left, and abhor pushback against the furthest right of the party. Proggy punch-ups and kickabouts, all good, yet even fairly mild dissent towards and exposure of a Manchin or Sinema type, always bad.

Notice the main yips and yaps from certain quarters about tax policy in the 2 infrastructure bills were not about the fact that the majority of the hideous Trump tax cuts for the rich have been left intact, no no no. The main whingeing was about ensuring that the massively regressive, far too high SALT Cap increase was allowed in. A cap raise, as it stands, that goes (hundreds of billions in tax cuts) 96% to the richest 20 per cent, and 56 per cent straight to the richest ONE per cent (it takes a minimum of around $12 million in net worth to qualify as a 1%er) of Americans. The bottom 80% of Americans will see little (a few near the top of that 80%) to fuckall (almost the entire group) in tax breaks.

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k Achilleaze Jan 2022 #1
KNR and bookmarking. For later. niyad Jan 2022 #2
I literally got two hides for saying this. onecaliberal Jan 2022 #3
It's finally becoming clear that Manchin is not acting in good faith Blaukraut Jan 2022 #9
I'm sorry but it's been clear for years. onecaliberal Jan 2022 #11
Of course it has, but now we can say it out loud n/t Blaukraut Jan 2022 #13
So it's not always okay for us to be honest. onecaliberal Jan 2022 #14
There's the rub! dchill Jan 2022 #46
+1. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #30
Without seeing exactly what you said, I hope you at least appealed Celerity Jan 2022 #19
I said let's find out who really own Manchin. onecaliberal Jan 2022 #24
I got kicked off the Daily Kos for saying people still have questions about the attacks of 9/11/01. OMGWTF Jan 2022 #25
9/11 discussion from every angle has been poisoned. It is pointless to engage in public discussion Celerity Jan 2022 #28
I understand. I've been saying to play hardball with Manchin... brush Jan 2022 #20
It is amazing how subjective rule enforcement is here. "D" does not always mean good. AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #38
I may have been on one of your juries. stage left Jan 2022 #47
I agree. ShazzieB Jan 2022 #51
I agree as well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 2022 #56
Yes you did! FakeNoose Jan 2022 #53
K&R CentralMass Jan 2022 #4
The link: UTUSN Jan 2022 #5
thank you. barbtries Jan 2022 #16
Thanks UTUSN. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2022 #37
Tell us something we don't know. Ray Bruns Jan 2022 #6
podesta is an idiot. he, llike most dem strategists/analysts completely ignore the certainot Jan 2022 #35
K; R CatWoman Jan 2022 #7
Seems like an investigation by the ethics committee is warranted. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #8
He doesn't have to switch sides,he's the Republican plant to fuck up progress Historic NY Jan 2022 #10
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Jan 2022 #12
He (or media) floated switching to "Independent" & caucusing with Dems (for Majority). UTUSN Jan 2022 #15
Yep. You know how the Pubs have been filling local, state and fed positions for 40 years Nay Jan 2022 #61
I dunno, pretty fucking obvious from here. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #17
Does Manchin have grandchildren? CrispyQ Jan 2022 #18
They think their money not fooled Jan 2022 #32
I said in another thread about Manchin, CrispyQ Jan 2022 #33
Agree not fooled Jan 2022 #48
The Founding Fathers should have said... XacerbatedDem Jan 2022 #60
I think he sold them when they came over for the weekend. olegramps Jan 2022 #59
Manchin is the #1 recipient of donations from the dirty coal, gas, & oil industries in the... LudwigPastorius Jan 2022 #21
If we get voting rights passed and win big in the midterms KS Toronado Jan 2022 #22
Voting rights is Job One! OMGWTF Jan 2022 #26
A law forcing coal users to switch to alternate energy sources KS Toronado Jan 2022 #34
Manchin & Sinema will lose their power -- That's why they are against fillibuster reforms . TheBlackAdder Jan 2022 #39
Yes, they can see the writing on the wall KS Toronado Jan 2022 #41
So, we've all identified the problem. Magoo48 Jan 2022 #23
An LBJ type would have clandestinely put the squeeze on his entire family, especially his Celerity Jan 2022 #31
I have often wished for an LBJ. nt Nay Jan 2022 #63
In addition to going after manchin in WV, Biden and all dems HUAJIAO Jan 2022 #27
+1 Celerity Jan 2022 #29
And his daughter is being investigated by DOJ for her company's role in profiteering off EpiPen TheRickles Jan 2022 #36
Disgusting piece of humanity marieo1 Jan 2022 #40
Bootstrap pulling is never ending for some? czarjak Jan 2022 #42
here's the link to the whole article.... ZonkerHarris Jan 2022 #43
yep llashram Jan 2022 #44
You can depend on Manchin doing the right (Republican) thing in the end Meadowoak Jan 2022 #45
He's a coal baron repuke. Fuck him. Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #49
K&R UCmeNdc Jan 2022 #50
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Jan 2022 #52
Read the article before it was posted here, it's a damn good article! burrowowl Jan 2022 #54
Legal Bribery colsohlibgal Jan 2022 #55
NO surprise RayStar Jan 2022 #57
It is difficult to get a man to moondust Jan 2022 #58
This will ruin us. In so many ways. librechik Jan 2022 #62
We don't have any more time Bayard Jan 2022 #64
I guess we're stuck between a rock (the problematic Manchin) and losing a blue seat to the red team calimary Jan 2022 #65
kicking.... nt Hotler Jan 2022 #66
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