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pro life is a right wing frame nt msongs Oct 2012 #1
Yeah, but they don't really mean it. Once the kid is born, forgotten. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #102
"abortion rates are similar in countries where it is legal and those where it is not," Hissyspit Oct 2012 #388
Yes, it does. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #2
+1,000,000 Soylent Brice Oct 2012 #244
@ CthulhusEvilCousin--Why are you forcing your opinion on women of child bearing age? Rectangle Oct 2012 #316
It's not pro-life, it's anti-choice.. Permanut Oct 2012 #3
Anti-choice is more accurate. More factual. More reality-based. calimary Oct 2012 #73
Exactly. "Pro-life" is a marketing ploy to mask anti-choice authoritarianism. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #74
It's forced birthing Major Nikon Oct 2012 #95
I just heard that term today listening to MSNBC, don't know who said it but that is spot on. n/t cui bono Oct 2012 #296
The idea has been around for a while Major Nikon Oct 2012 #299
that was the first time I heard it as well. Definitely spot on. liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #313
thank you. lillypaddle Oct 2012 #185
+1000. It it anti-choice. If you establish the principle that lawmakers should be making gkhouston Oct 2012 #250
*facepalm* LeftyMom Oct 2012 #4
The rethuglican party xxqqqzme Oct 2012 #5
I am pro-life and pro-choice ThomThom Oct 2012 #17
That means you are pro-choice. That's the definiton! johnnyrocket Oct 2012 #318
no I am pro-life but not anti-choice ThomThom Oct 2012 #322
Agree.. txdemsftw Oct 2012 #33
a religious belief is a personal belief RainDog Oct 2012 #6
a religious belief is a social belief hfojvt Oct 2012 #26
it's not a universal. it's a choice someone makes RainDog Oct 2012 #94
+1000 hiphopnation Oct 2012 #186
I am not even sure what you just said hfojvt Oct 2012 #219
I am pro-life, anti-abortion, agnostic and a feminist. Th1onein Oct 2012 #39
You are "pro life, anti aborion... and a feminist"? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #50
Absolutely I am. Th1onein Oct 2012 #114
Such a feminist that you'd jail women who have had abortions as having committed homicide. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #130
We're not going to go there, are we? Th1onein Oct 2012 #135
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #140
I am going there. Your position is the incendiary one. Jailing women who have had abortions riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #172
The Statute of Limitations has absolutely nothing to do with laws that reach back in time to a place Th1onein Oct 2012 #177
Nobody sets out to get cancer so they can get chemo either. Sometimes shit happens riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #181
You just reiterated my point, with a different analogy. Geez. Th1onein Oct 2012 #200
Bullshit. Abortion is a soulution, not a problem. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #245
We believe the problem to be assholes trying to RESTRICT choice. YOU think the problem is abortion. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #248
++++++ uppityperson Oct 2012 #362
So what about the thousands of women liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #394
"most people" do not believe abortion is evil RainDog Oct 2012 #188
First of all, don't call me a liar. That kind of personal invective doesn't belong in a discussion Th1onein Oct 2012 #202
You said most people think abortion is evil RainDog Oct 2012 #211
I think you're splitting hairs. Th1onein Oct 2012 #224
Who cares 'what most people think'? What do you think about chemotherapy? Or tonsillectomies? PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #227
"What most people think" is usually an indicator of a consensus. Th1onein Oct 2012 #261
What's your basis for your belief? RainDog Oct 2012 #231
sloppy command of reality Care Acutely Oct 2012 #253
Hell of a lot of difference there, you can't have it both ways. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #252
I do NOT agree with that statement. Abortion is a moral and positive choice that liberates women, PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #221
I think most people would rather not get an abortion. Th1onein Oct 2012 #225
OK, I don't want chemotherapy, either. Or am amputation of my leg, but sometimes they make me better PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #229
I see the similarities, but it's not a good argument. Th1onein Oct 2012 #264
Childbirth is far FAR more dangerous than abortions. Your argument fails. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #273
Crossing the street is dangerous. But walking out in front of a bus is deadly. Th1onein Oct 2012 #281
Women don't die from legal abortions, so what murder is committed? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #334
NO! There are women who DIE in childbirth. Its utterly immoral to force ALL women to birth riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #277
As well as the risk to their mental health obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #335
Legal abortions are not a dangerous medical procedure obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #333
Most people would rather not get a root canal either. But having one done is sometimes necessary. uppityperson Oct 2012 #364
Abortion isn't a good thing, it's an EXCELLENT thing Care Acutely Oct 2012 #247
Yes!!! HangOnKids Oct 2012 #249
Abortion can be a good thing. You are wrong that everyone agrees it is "NOT". uppityperson Oct 2012 #363
From my perspective, polly7 Oct 2012 #191
+1 idwiyo Oct 2012 #311
Bringing an unwanted child into the world is worse. polly7 Oct 2012 #210
Why is it that people against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place? backscatter712 Oct 2012 #193
In your opinion, is getting an abortion murder? Does doing an abortion make them a murderer? uppityperson Oct 2012 #197
Maybe Th1onein will answer but there's backstory on that. In short yes she's called it murder before riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #222
huh. That's, quite frankly, bullshit. I knew most of that as we were on forced ignore. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #223
I have no problem at all with history, riderinthestorm. Th1onein Oct 2012 #287
You want to blame others for YOUR ABUSE???? RainDog Oct 2012 #289
I'm not going to justify your post with much of a response, RainDog. Th1onein Oct 2012 #291
Here's what you said RainDog Oct 2012 #300
Good grief, how in the WORLD do you come up with that assessment of what I said? Th1onein Oct 2012 #306
"Homicide" is also a legal term. uppityperson Oct 2012 #365
Walks like a duck, squawks like a duck.... GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #381
that has to be one of the stupidest remarks on this thread RainDog Oct 2012 #382
Why thank you. I've read the entire thread and found her logic lacking in the extreme. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #383
I was talking about her remark, not yours RainDog Oct 2012 #384
Sorry, it was late and I was in mellow land. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #391
Homicide and murder are the same thing obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #338
That is ridiculous -- homicide and murder are the same thing obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #336
I didn't. Skinner Oct 2012 #353
thank you for clarifying that. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #360
Thank you for clarifying Skinner. Appreciate it. nt uppityperson Oct 2012 #366
You can believe that and never have an abortion, yourself. MineralMan Oct 2012 #201
Thank you, you've said it perfectly. liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #395
Excellent post (nt) Tumbulu Nov 2012 #399
So, are you going to vote for the Presidential candidate who disagrees with you on that issue? 2ndAmForComputers Oct 2012 #259
How I handle my own pregnancies is none of your business. And a feminist understands that, in fact DeschutesRiver Oct 2012 #243
No, you can't be anti choice and a Feminist obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #332
I get it, for whatever it's worth. I don't agree with it, but I get it. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #341
Patricia Heaton is a Republican Fla Dem Oct 2012 #218
I know who Patrciia Heaton is obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #340
It's such a good thing that birth control is available to all and works flawlessly always Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #85
No need to be sarcastic or rude, Arugula Latte. Th1onein Oct 2012 #115
Obviously I think we should have great birth control and great access to it. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #123
I am a female and a "good" feminist. Th1onein Oct 2012 #134
It's not the fact that you are pro life that's the issue... hnfpd Oct 2012 #141
Let's turn that argument on it's end for a minute, okay? Th1onein Oct 2012 #145
It will never, ever been 100 percent avoidable. Never. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #176
I, in fact, HAVE A UTERUS. Th1onein Oct 2012 #179
Abortion is not a "problem". riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #184
Abortion is the problem; the issue, that we cannot agree upon. That's a problem. Th1onein Oct 2012 #203
You've labelled abortion a problem in many posts on this thread alone. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #216
*You* have the problem, in that you think any other uterus is any of your business. Lars39 Oct 2012 #187
Please try to keep up. Th1onein Oct 2012 #204
My statement stands. Lars39 Oct 2012 #239
What statement? The one where you assume that I don't have a uterus? Th1onein Oct 2012 #265
No, the statement of "any other" uterus being any of your business. Lars39 Oct 2012 #271
They become society's business when they hold the life of an innocent child. Th1onein Oct 2012 #280
So you believe that a woman who has an abortion is a murderer? Lars39 Oct 2012 #283
Another person's uterus is NEVER any of your business. You don't get a say in whether smokey nj Oct 2012 #319
You think abortion is a "wedge issue?" RainDog Oct 2012 #189
A wedge issue is an issue that divides a group. I think the issue of abortion does a pretty good Th1onein Oct 2012 #205
What's your basis for your belief, then? RainDog Oct 2012 #215
Actually, part of it does come from science. Th1onein Oct 2012 #230
We all know 'life' starts at conception. Personhood, however, does not. So sayeth SCOTUS. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #234
So, you admit that abortion is taking another's life, then? Th1onein Oct 2012 #238
Um, no. It's not 'taking another's life' any more than cutting out a mole or tumor or hangnail is. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #241
That question is a pro-abortion framing of the issue. Th1onein Oct 2012 #263
I find your opinion on this matter disgusting, judgmental, and in conflict with the Democratic Party PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #272
Thattttt's right! Lob those insults! Oh! Hey! That really furthers your argument! Th1onein Oct 2012 #285
I stated the facts about with whom you align. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #286
So, you are saying that, because I am pro-life.... Th1onein Oct 2012 #290
I didn't call you any names. I said on that issue you align with scum. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #293
You are apparently trying to infer that I'm scum, then, right? Th1onein Oct 2012 #298
You'd like to see abortion outlawed. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2012 #393
And when I cut off my foot because of a gangrenous toe, I've also taken life, since my foot was aliv uppityperson Oct 2012 #368
LOL RainDog Oct 2012 #235
Please In Her Spare Time She Is A Scientist HangOnKids Oct 2012 #254
"I am a biomedical researcher, in my spare time. " Care Acutely Oct 2012 #258
You know, Care Acutely, just because YOU have not chosen to use your spare time in a manner Th1onein Oct 2012 #260
And I am the QUEEN OF SHEEBA. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #270
The difference is that you can look up my work, and I can't look up your queenly lineage. Th1onein Oct 2012 #276
That still doesn't justify your claim RainDog Oct 2012 #370
No, because my mother said I'M the Queen of Sheba! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #343
Define "life". You keep using that term but haven't defined what you mean. It is simple uppityperson Oct 2012 #367
Believe whatever you believe, but do not force MineralMan Oct 2012 #214
Nope, that's not going to fly, pardner. Th1onein Oct 2012 #236
Nor is any of this your choice. We have laws in this land. We can trust women to exercise their PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #246
I obviously disagree with you. Th1onein Oct 2012 #262
Thank you for so clearly stating "Abortion should be illegal". uppityperson Oct 2012 #369
Do you honestly believe that making abortion illegal liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #396
That clump of cells is not a person's life. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #251
It does fly since abortion is legal. And for that matter, whenever abortion has briefly DeschutesRiver Oct 2012 #255
First, I'm not your "pardner." MineralMan Oct 2012 #256
Just in case you missed it, in post #236, she does call abortion a "homicide". For the record... nt riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #274
Yes, I saw that, and I don't find it compatible MineralMan Oct 2012 #275
Exactly obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #342
My uterus is mine and any embryo that decides to grow Tumbulu Nov 2012 #400
I am pro-choice and pro-abortion. It saves lives, families and liberates women. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #92
Oh yes, it will become moot one day. Th1onein Oct 2012 #117
You live in a dream world waddirum Oct 2012 #121
No. waddirum, I live in the real world. You know, the one where man has set foot on the moon? Th1onein Oct 2012 #136
And you think antibiotics and surgery cure all sick people all the time? Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #178
You miss my point completely. Th1onein Oct 2012 #180
Right! So NO NEED TO OUTLAW it. Keep it legal and readily available! I'm glad you agree. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #182
Now you're advocating for enforced sterilization to prevent abortion???!!!! riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #183
Would you mind explaining your position on sterilisation? idwiyo Oct 2012 #323
Who will be made to be sterilized, and who decides it? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #344
obviously chemical and other castration would be the answer RainDog Oct 2012 #354
Please inform me... waddirum Oct 2012 #326
Ectopic pregnancies = abortion. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #132
Children's lives are jeopardized to satisfy a bizarre notion that abortions are homicides? Wow; Th1onein Oct 2012 #137
What 'problem' are you referring to? PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #152
The problem of abortions. nt Th1onein Oct 2012 #173
huh. How are abortions a problem and to whom? PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #213
abortion is the solution -- not the problem nt waddirum Oct 2012 #331
Do you subscribe to the notion that "pregnancies from rape are God’s will"? PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #154
I've already said that I am an agnostic, haven't I? Th1onein Oct 2012 #174
abortion is NOT a problem, it's a solution. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #217
Abortion is the wedge issue, PeaceNikki. Th1onein Oct 2012 #226
Bullshit. Trying to restrict is is the problem. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #228
For the pro-abortionists trying to restrict it is the problem. For the anti-abortionists, the Th1onein Oct 2012 #266
Your argument loses all credibility when you throw out the term "pro-abortionist". cui bono Oct 2012 #303
Pro-Abortionists? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #345
"pro-abortionists"? Seriously? Hey, I'll have an Abortion Party (tm) Dec 22, ok? uppityperson Oct 2012 #372
If you were standing in front of me... Marrah_G Nov 2012 #403
Abortion is a "problem" because it is "the wedge issue" for you? THAT is why you have such uppityperson Oct 2012 #371
Sometimes pregnancies have to be terminated to save women's lives. Sometimes women are raped. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #149
When an abortion saves a life, abortion should be performed. I don't disagree with that. Th1onein Oct 2012 #268
I have a question for you, not actually related to abortion. Zalatix Oct 2012 #278
Yes, I have family and friends who are pro-life. Th1onein Oct 2012 #279
you claim you want common ground but use words like "murder" and "homicide" PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #282
See Post #287, PeaceNikki. Th1onein Oct 2012 #294
how would you like to punish women, their doctors and accomplices in Th1oneinstan? PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #295
I have faith in our legislature to come up with something appropriate, as long as it's a Democratic Th1onein Oct 2012 #302
you find my comments incendiary but not your own? buy a mirror, honey. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #304
We have common ground RainDog Oct 2012 #284
Once again, RainDog, you are mischaracterizing my statements and my position. Completely. Th1onein Oct 2012 #307
You're right, it is a wedge issue Zalatix Oct 2012 #305
so RainDog Oct 2012 #350
Ummmmmmm... Zalatix Oct 2012 #351
then explain this utopia RainDog Oct 2012 #352
If religious extremists got enough power where they could twist things like in your previous post Zalatix Oct 2012 #356
and what if women did not want to donate their genetic material? RainDog Oct 2012 #357
If it's viable it's no longer just 'genetic material'. Zalatix Oct 2012 #359
you present no valid circumstance RainDog Oct 2012 #361
Like I said before, technology determines viability. Zalatix Oct 2012 #374
I'm familiar with Roe v Wade RainDog Oct 2012 #375
I told you before, pre-birth personhood is determined by viability. What the hell? Zalatix Oct 2012 #377
so abortion prior to viability would be okay in your world? RainDog Oct 2012 #378
Surely you're just kidding now. Zalatix Oct 2012 #379
Who is going to raise these incubator babies? RainDog Oct 2012 #380
Did you know women with good finances and support get abortions? What support do you want to uppityperson Oct 2012 #373
Oh and ectopic pregnancies will go away on their own Tumbulu Nov 2012 #401
I'm pro-abortion Major Nikon Oct 2012 #98
+1 It is the ultimate hifiguy Oct 2012 #129
I am with you. Abortion is a moral and positive choice that liberates women, saves lives, and PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #150
contraception often fails waddirum Oct 2012 #119
Good luck on that fairy tale coming true. Jamastiene Oct 2012 #133
Question for you: Marrah_G Oct 2012 #164
Yes you are correct (nt) Tumbulu Nov 2012 #402
Isn't that pretty much what Bill Clinton did? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #7
I stand for life BanzaiBonnie Oct 2012 #8
Thank you! Mme. Defarge Oct 2012 #9
What utter nonsense. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #12
No thank you. "Choice" is not a fucking euphemism. It's a choice. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #20
Actually, both "life" and "choice" are most indeed euphemisms. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #30
Agreed ... Mme. Defarge Oct 2012 #54
It can't be done while supporting an economically conservative agenda, that's for sure. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #56
You are correct, it's a symptom of a deeper defecit in modern wester civilization. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2012 #27
Bullshit. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #59
Hogwash obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #51
it should TorchTheWitch Oct 2012 #190
Especially since it's now officially part of the Dem Platform obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #346
"pro-life" is a euphemism for forced birthing Major Nikon Oct 2012 #96
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #142
"Pro-life" is a euphemism for "anti-woman." athena Oct 2012 #196
"Pro-Life" isn't Pro-Life, because it is fascism. patrice Oct 2012 #10
If you want to use government to make that call for women, it does. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #11
^This^ Freddie Oct 2012 #14
many people on the left though hfojvt Oct 2012 #29
No, there's no "though" Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #81
This obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #52
+1,000,000 nt RomneyLies Oct 2012 #57
bingo.... mike_c Oct 2012 #91
+1. I lose count, so I just say +1 and trust that you'll keep a tally. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #107
I usually hate your fucking posts hnfpd Oct 2012 #143
That's an odd reply for a number of reasons, starting with the obvious ones Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #144
I was going to ask hnf to stop 'helping' here, Mc Mike Oct 2012 #147
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #348
I don't think the author's point CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #13
The phrase 'pro-Life' is a right-wing frame and you're a troll - n/t coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #15
Pro Life....offensive way to phrase it.... StarryNite Oct 2012 #16
I find as I get older, I care less and less for the male opinion on women's health issues justiceischeap Oct 2012 #18
You Got That Right RobinA Oct 2012 #49
There are women who chime in as pro-circumcision on every single circumcision thread I've seen here. Fumesucker Oct 2012 #139
Sorry but I don't see that conversation as often as I see those concerning justiceischeap Oct 2012 #146
Here's the words I was responding to Fumesucker Oct 2012 #148
I clarified my OP justiceischeap Oct 2012 #153
The words I quoted came from post #18, not the OP Fumesucker Oct 2012 #155
hogwash. It's Anti-choice. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #19
What Nikki said. Skidmore Oct 2012 #22
but LAWS do that all the time hfojvt Oct 2012 #32
There are Democrats (even DUers) who believe abortion is a homicide and women should be jailed riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #43
Well, in general, I do not see the prison system, for any offense, hfojvt Oct 2012 #45
Jesus fucking Christ, i meant the collective "my". PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #89
Fart noises. Solly Mack Oct 2012 #21
Sure it does. Iggo Oct 2012 #23
No-one is "pro-death"; thus, the correct term here is "anti-choice." WinkyDink Oct 2012 #24
No one is anti-choice in totality either. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #31
Uh, duh; the context IS "abortion." Nobody (except you) would think the phrase includes ice-cream or WinkyDink Oct 2012 #159
Uh, duh; Some of us don't feel the need to mix framing with context when discussing an issue. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #269
Assume I'll see you demonstrating at the next anti-death penalty rally? Or are you just pro-zygote? retread Oct 2012 #25
+1,000,000! Waiting to hear an answer to that. Zalatix Oct 2012 #63
..... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #67
I dunno if the OP is a consistent-life ethic person. Zalatix Oct 2012 #82
She actually is consistent on that point, liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #397
Hitchens was the atheist superhero sadbear Oct 2012 #28
Two words for anyone equating "atheism" and "left wing": AYN RAND. bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #165
Yup. sadbear Oct 2012 #171
I don't know who Hitchens is but my daughter is an atheist and left wing liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #315
Well in all fairness to atheists we are way more to the left than other people Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #387
I'm not sure anyone really want abortions to have to take place davidpdx Oct 2012 #34
I think abortion is wrong.. SQUEE Oct 2012 #35
Don't have one then. retread Oct 2012 #209
You miss my point SQUEE Oct 2012 #330
I am pro-this-is-a-medical-decision-between-a grown-woman-and-her-doctor. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #36
+1 JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #80
Nobody really likes abortions. bemildred Oct 2012 #37
Sorry, but it does. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #38
Hogwash. 99Forever Oct 2012 #40
How about this? Zoeisright Oct 2012 #41
Depends, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2012 #42
precisely ibegurpard Oct 2012 #116
interdicting civility and reason to a complicated issue again? Magistrate to the rescue. grantcart Oct 2012 #232
I wonder how many third-trimester fetuses Mc Mike Oct 2012 #44
Excellent response Oilwellian Oct 2012 #71
Thanks O.w. Great member name. NT. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #110
The infant mortality rate in some areas of the US rivals some 3rd world countries Major Nikon Oct 2012 #99
+1 to this, your post 96, and 97. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #111
No fucking kidding. I live on an Indian reservation liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #398
You've got me searching for the "like" button! +10000 Iris Oct 2012 #120
Thanks, I. Nt. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #161
+1,000,000:000:000,000,000,000,000 redqueen Oct 2012 #151
Hi Red, I hit the jackpot. Thanks Nt. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #162
Troll sensor activated! L0oniX Oct 2012 #46
You mean anti choice, and if one is anti choice obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #47
Well, since no one is by definition "anti-choice".... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #58
No one is anti-choice? Have you read the Repubilcan platform? yardwork Oct 2012 #64
The Republican platform is certainly not "pro-life." That's for sure. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #65
Excuse me, but it's a lot more than rhetorical to women whose lives are on the line. yardwork Oct 2012 #68
The issue itself is not rhetoric. But the framing of the issue is. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #70
Nonsense. Anti-choice is a very apt way to describe what the Republicans want. yardwork Oct 2012 #76
No. Let's be intellectually honest here. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #77
Guess what? Nobody made YOU "The Framer." We are using accepted terms, Mr. Jesuitical. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #160
Har har! Mc Mike Oct 2012 #166
Accepted really only by those who share a similar view as yours. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #220
Of course people are anti choice obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #69
Life and Choice are but empty terms. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #72
On the issue of abortion, yes, plenty of people are most assuredly "anti-choice". NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #86
I think you inadvertantly nail it with your post. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #88
When people talk about being "pro-choice" in the context of an abortion issue, NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #90
And when people say "pro-life" in the context of the abortion issue, most Americans instinctively... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #103
But the debate isn't about "the best bumper stickers". You're missing the point. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #106
No, the debate SHOULDN'T be about who has the best bumper stickers. But that's what it's become. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #109
The morning after pill isn't an extraordinary medical procedure, Mc Mike Oct 2012 #112
Personally, I agree. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #233
Tom, you argue politely and rationally, but Mc Mike Oct 2012 #320
Well said. redqueen Oct 2012 #156
They are trying to make a choice illegal gollygee Oct 2012 #105
Choice to do what? nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #108
Chosing a hygienic legal medical abortion vs a illegal unhygienic back alley one. eom uppityperson Oct 2012 #138
Tommy, you're really doing nothing more here than playing word games, the same way bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #168
How exactly am I playing word games here? Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #212
So you are anti choice and you believe that the government should have say over Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #48
ALL YOUR UTERI ARE BELONG TO US Capt. Obvious Oct 2012 #53
Our language is polluted by those who would pollute our thinking. hunter Oct 2012 #55
+1 Marrah_G Oct 2012 #167
Thank you. Well said. n/t kiranon Oct 2012 #240
Wrong. If you are against women having control over their own bodies, then you are efhmc Oct 2012 #60
I'm pro-choice renate Oct 2012 #61
What a load of crap, imo... Spazito Oct 2012 #62
We even have a Senate candidate in a close race spewing that doctors are preforming abortions on libdem4life Oct 2012 #66
Yeah, We Hear The Same Thing From Our DU Gun Enthusiasts. Paladin Oct 2012 #75
I think that I have a nuanced view on this issue. dawg Oct 2012 #78
I'm betting what your original post means is that you have chosen to be Non-choice but support... Tikki Oct 2012 #79
There's a reason why the coat hanger has become a symbol. Never forget. Politicub Oct 2012 #83
You can be as "pro life" as you want, but stay out of MY business. hamsterjill Oct 2012 #84
If you're anti-choice, then yes that does make you less of a "lefty". NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #87
Good points, thanks for sharing. usregimechange Oct 2012 #93
So the author claims it isn't about emotion, then proceeds to list arguments based on emotion Major Nikon Oct 2012 #97
Thanks for weighing in. cliffordu Oct 2012 #100
If by "pro-life" you mean... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #101
Holy crap. Trashing this thread. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #104
YES, it does! MuhkRahker Oct 2012 #113
This...a facebook exchange with a 21 year old in bible college babydollhead Oct 2012 #118
I am heartily sick of these tired old memes. LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #122
I agree with everything you said except one small point - "...having a baby, which men support in Iris Oct 2012 #124
You were partially right: LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #125
Ah, ok. I see. I think the survey I was talking about was before 2008. Iris Oct 2012 #126
Normally I look this stuff up before I post LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #127
Honestly, it's hard sometimes not to believe there's some giant conspiracy. Iris Oct 2012 #128
My mother taught me not to hate but sometimes it is hard. efhmc Oct 2012 #131
Rove corp hard at work. Not rank and file. Nt Mc Mike Oct 2012 #163
anti choice. but, dont be telling me it is pro life. that is bullshit. anti choice. call it what is. seabeyond Oct 2012 #157
I don't even call it that Major Nikon Oct 2012 #158
Sea and red both. Makes it worth tuning in for me. 'Cthulhu', Balderdash. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #194
I like it. Long and short version. Saving it for future refernce and you should, too! Iris Oct 2012 #207
Are you also for forced organ donations? athena Oct 2012 #169
Pro-life = anti-woman Generic Other Oct 2012 #170
All Democrats are pro life. Every single one. Autumn Oct 2012 #175
Keep you forced birth bullshit out of my party. MadrasT Oct 2012 #192
Denying abortion rights to women ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #195
For Starters Megahurtz Oct 2012 #198
Well then, don't have an abortion Bettie Oct 2012 #199
How many children have you adopted? jeff47 Oct 2012 #206
The sovereign inner parts and functions of my body are none of your fucking business. Zorra Oct 2012 #208
I would not vote for ANY candidate who wasn't pro-choice. forestpath Oct 2012 #237
Agree. n/t kiranon Oct 2012 #242
If you think abortion is wrong, don't have one. Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #257
birth control and good sex ed....best way to have smaller abortion numbers DonRedwood Oct 2012 #267
You can be against abortion in a different way davidn3600 Oct 2012 #288
You are absolutely right. Well said. eom Th1onein Oct 2012 #308
I've been reading your posts liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #309
Oh? You've been reading my posts, have you? Th1onein Oct 2012 #310
Yes I had been reading your posts liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #314
Facile, dave. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #324
I'm a pro-life Democrat and wanted to just come in and say we do exist! O/ nt cecilfirefox Oct 2012 #292
anti-abortion is not pro-life RainDog Oct 2012 #301
It does if you want to legislate your belief so as to impose it on others. cui bono Oct 2012 #297
"Pro-life" = forced birth = right wing talking points. Also, if you are so "pro-life" how can you idwiyo Oct 2012 #312
What is the angst? What are you wrestling with? johnnyrocket Oct 2012 #317
I didn't know this, but someone I really respected WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2012 #321
If you ask any "pro-life" Democrat how they really feel about abortion... Taverner Oct 2012 #325
Not at least one in this thread who thinks abortion should be illegal. A position to the right of PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #328
IMO the abortion issue all boils down to whether you think a fetus is a person. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #327
4 primary reasons I'm pro choice: DHelix Oct 2012 #358
if your "pro-life" position includes the death penalty i will listen to you arely staircase Oct 2012 #329
ah... yes it does fascisthunter Oct 2012 #337
I struggle with this issue myself. So I understand. But I am pro-choice, in the end. 12 wks seems Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #339
Not to a child who has been raped obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #389
It doesn't make you any less of a democrat. craigmatic Oct 2012 #347
She's in no way a lefty. She posts on conservative forums. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #376
Pro Choice is a plank of the Dem Platform obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #390
Ok but the president doesn't neccessarily have to follow the platform and neither do we and still be craigmatic Oct 2012 #392
Every time this subject comes up mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2012 #349
amen! n/t RainDog Oct 2012 #355
You are not a liberal Demsrule86 Oct 2012 #385
... RainDog Oct 2012 #386
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