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genxlib

(6,115 posts)
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 11:50 PM Jan 2022

The vaccine mandate falls and I'm not mad about it [View all]

So this happened today https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/13/scotus-blocks-bidens-workplace-vaccine-rule-527054

But I have to say, I am not upset. I expect this opinion to be very unpopular but hear me out.

Here are three thoughts.

1. They have already accomplished most of what they could
2. Things were about to get very messy
3. I did not see a clear exit strategy

I have to say I was never a big fan. I have been uneasy about it in ways that may have been solved today. So allow me to elaborate on my above thoughts.

1. Many companies pushed forward and set early deadlines that have already motivated most of the reasonable fence sitters. Those are gains that cannot be taken back. What is left are the stubborn hold-outs that are desperately hoping for a medical or health exemption. It seems to me like we have already gotten much of the benefit that was ever available.

2. Going forward, things were going to get very messy to actually enforce the mandate. The hardened hold-outs were mostly going to ride this to the bitter end. We were going to see daily stories about denied waivers and employee terminations. All of this in the face of staffing issues, inflation, product shortages, etc. It was going to be a PR nightmare and we were going to create a shitload of martyrs in the process. Most of that would come with very few additional vaccinations.

3. I don't for one second believe that #2 was going to play out quickly. I suspect it would take till at least the end of the year to really close the books on enforcement due to court challenges and appeals, etc.. Personally, I think the Omicron wave may be the last serious wave to this pandemic. The infection rates are high and fast and have dropped off precipitously in other Countries. The net result of that could leave a relatively resistant Country better prepared to fight off future waves. Combined with better treatments and higher vaccine rates, things are better now than they were six months ago. Which begs the question, would we be enforcing this mandate on a population that no longer wants it. I could easily see a time when the population feels like we are past this and the Government is left wondering what to do with the mandate. Enforce it even though it no longer feels necessary? Forget it and empower the martyrs? Revoke it at the last minute? It just seems like a mess.

So I say this is an ugly end that might have avoided an even uglier end. I would just release a strongly worded statement to the effect of "we tried to do the right thing but those partisan assholes over there have left us to suffer more pain and suffering every bit of which will now be their fault"

I fully expect to take a lot of grief in the comments so do your worst.



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I agree, but I know there are some here who seem to get great pleasure when people get terminated MichMan Jan 2022 #1
More variants will almost surely ensue. dchill Jan 2022 #2
I agree too. Enforcement was going to be a PR and an HR nightmare ecstatic Jan 2022 #3
Appreciate your clear explanation and think you're right. Declare victory and move on SharonAnn Jan 2022 #4
I disagree. The pandemic was just extended indefinitely by SCOTUS... brush Jan 2022 #5
I have long hold the opinion that Claustrum Jan 2022 #6
You willet nothing from me . . . . . . . Stinky The Clown Jan 2022 #7
lets see lapfog_1 Jan 2022 #8
I agree with basically everything you said genxlib Jan 2022 #13
It was vaccine or test NT EleanorR Jan 2022 #9
either take the vaccine or test once a week. EleanorR Jan 2022 #10
What do you have against mandated TESTING in lieu of vaccination? SunSeeker Jan 2022 #11
Fair question and good point genxlib Jan 2022 #14
Of course it's not forever. It was an emergency regulation pending the pandemic emergency. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #15
The testing piece was fairly useless if it was only going to be once a week. Ace Rothstein Jan 2022 #17
Once weekly testing of vaccine holdouts at UCLA administration has proven effective. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #21
All good points Deminpenn Jan 2022 #12
Trashing thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2022 #16
I hadn't thought of it that way so I guess there is an upside but mahina Jan 2022 #18
The major flaw in that reasoning is waning immunity Hav Jan 2022 #19
I think Dorian Gray Jan 2022 #20
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