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ellisonz

(27,776 posts)
22. Whether that's enough to get them to show up and vote is another matter...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:58 AM
Jan 2012

I doubt that polling is among likely voters. That's really the issue to be concerned with, but as you can see clearly from the issue polling, there is some shakiness to that support. A lot can change between now and next November; we need to take efforts to make sure Latinos don't stay home because we really need their votes in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado. We can't stick our head in the sand on this issue and say everything is perfectly fine, and we don't need to take pro-active measures to shore up that voting bloc because it might aggravate other groups. Anyone that is going to be aggravated by such support for immigration reform probably isn't going to vote Obama at the end of the day or is in denial.

Here is my thread from the BOG (before my banishment) in which I say nothing but that, free of talking points of any form, very clearly saying nothing other than that:

What should Team Obama be doing to communicate to the Latino community that Democrats want real immigration reform? The Republicans are going to attack on this issue anyway so we might as well have a firm position heading into 2012.

There is nothing about immigration under "Issues' and the Latino's Group is plain: http://www.barackobama.com/latinos?source=primary-nav - Why isn't the Obama campaign getting out in front of this issue? I don't think we can win by shying away from the wedge issues. I think they should have recorded video statements for the website and youtube saying exactly where he stands. I'm really not happy with the way the website looks (it's "preppy" in color and "cloudy" in design - I'd like to see a more traditional layout and coloring), and yes I have applied for a job with the campaign and no luck

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11021786


Unless we're going to concede the Southwest - We need a strong campaign to Latinos and immigration reform is one of the big issues with similar basic concerns to other groups also being important. Let's not sit and count our blessings before we've been blessed again in November 2012.

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this is a strange place bigtree Jan 2012 #1
Unions were beloved until they started endorsing Obama en masse. Robb Jan 2012 #2
I'll give props! Moosepoop Jan 2012 #4
thanks for that bigtree Jan 2012 #6
And notice - Hilda Solis has been quietly doing her job treestar Jan 2012 #13
A lot of things are being done quietly. It's not PC to say anything good about Obama. Mainstream freshwest Jan 2012 #31
Big props from me! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #24
Wonderful endorsement! ProSense Jan 2012 #3
Union and Latino endorsement. DevonRex Jan 2012 #5
"President Obama stands with farm workers and immigrants." Number23 Jan 2012 #10
Runs directly contrary to the talking points DevonRex Jan 2012 #11
Polls don't lie. It's going to be an uphill challenge to turn the Latino vote out on election day... ellisonz Jan 2012 #20
President Obama holds a wide lead among Hispanic voters bigtree Jan 2012 #21
Whether that's enough to get them to show up and vote is another matter... ellisonz Jan 2012 #22
I don't think it will be an 'uphill battle' bigtree Jan 2012 #23
The thing to consider though is our demographic decline in other groups... ellisonz Jan 2012 #25
I don't see the administration saying 'it's just fine' bigtree Jan 2012 #26
We need to shake out any complacency. ellisonz Jan 2012 #27
fired up! bigtree Jan 2012 #28
This is why I feel the "Democrats aren't different meme" is *expressly* about suppressing the vote. joshcryer Jan 2012 #29
Correct. ellisonz Jan 2012 #30
It's a terrific statement. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #14
Good news. n/t Scurrilous Jan 2012 #7
The crickets these "good news for Obama" threads sufrommich Jan 2012 #8
Exactly. The big recs are saved for CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #17
Probably the posters who post the good news are on ignore by the loudest detractors. joshcryer Jan 2012 #19
Kick politicasista Jan 2012 #9
Great news. Thanks for posting, bigtree. n/t pampango Jan 2012 #12
To protect the United Farm Workers' wages, Cesar Chavez was opposed to illegal aliens. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #15
Agreed. Organized labor and the Progressive Caucus are behind comprehensive reform including a path pampango Jan 2012 #32
Cesar Chavez's opposition to illegal aliens? Please clarify. Zalatix Jan 2012 #34
K&R! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #16
K & R ellisonz Jan 2012 #18
I got one thing to say about that: Zalatix Jan 2012 #33
Kick Scurrilous Jan 2012 #35
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