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80. I wish those would be brought up more

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:58 PM

Oct 2012

The right to opt out of a lingering, horrible death; "drug" tests (I'm a bit paranoid; I always suspect they do a dipstick urinalysis for common health problems as well as these tests are cheap, easy and can be done by a trained cat); employers mandating off-duty behavior; CCTV becoming more prevalent in public spaces; drug use; etc - there are so many hands reaching into my life and body (so to speak) and it's very unsettling. Even more unsettling is how many people accept this and the rationale for it.

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Being pro-choice means being, on some level, for bodily autonomy... [View all] Humanist_Activist Oct 2012 OP

Disagree Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #1

"Culture of life"? What's with this right wing framing? Humanist_Activist Oct 2012 #2

Independence Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #5

Uh, no women does feel that abortion is her only option. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #20

I think what Wildcat is saying is that we should make sure that every woman does have a choice Marrah_G Oct 2012 #26

#26 Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #34

Agreed. For a "pro-life" crowd they make it absolutely terrifying to have children. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #39

Not every woman who gets pregnant wants a(nother) child REP Oct 2012 #45

No no... I wasnt saying things should coerce any woman to give birth Marrah_G Oct 2012 #62

Can we define some terms so we can discuss this without insults or assumptions? uppityperson Oct 2012 #71

"but as an issue ethical concerns are paramount" says you Coexist Oct 2012 #3

Ethical commitments Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #7

Sometimes abortion IS the more ethical choice. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #21

Agree! REP Oct 2012 #47

No. I imagine depression or being scared about being pregnant Coexist Oct 2012 #83

Yes and thank you. REP Oct 2012 #46

Welcome to DU and enjoy your stay. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #4

Medical alone Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #6

You are assuming a lot about this woman. Iris Oct 2012 #9

Assuming? Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #10

Yes. Assuming. Iris Oct 2012 #12

I didn't consult with anyone liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #52

Sure it can be a medical decision alone. And its not a "human life". Its a clump of cells. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #29

Interference Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #37

You won't last long here. Believing that life begins at conception isn't progressive riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #42

How Pathetic Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #61

No, left alone, it becomes nothing gollygee Oct 2012 #66

You are wrong. The majority of women have no regrets after an abortion REP Oct 2012 #48

And that is up to that individual woman to decide. MineralMan Oct 2012 #74

Seeks counsel? You're a real piece of work. ceile Oct 2012 #75

until the theists fund the programs RainDog Oct 2012 #59

Oh, right. Culture of life. gollygee Oct 2012 #65

Take a hike, noob leftstreet Oct 2012 #8

Disrespect? Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #11

Arrogant? Iris Oct 2012 #13

Yep Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #15

Whose ethics? Yours? Iris Oct 2012 #16

I just threw up in my mouth a little REP Oct 2012 #57

Under no circumstance would I carry a fetus to term. Ever. MadrasT Oct 2012 #63

Funny how there's no answer to you or me on this from our "pro-birth" champion REP Oct 2012 #78

What is "pro-birth"? Please clarify for me. I agree, I'd like women to have all the assistance they uppityperson Oct 2012 #70

the derp is stong in this one datasuspect Oct 2012 #72

Because we don't believe in reproductive slavery ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #77

I'm just sick of old man fetus huggers who give no shits about women. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #14

Amen! Iris Oct 2012 #17

Amazing Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #18

I still find it amazing that you choose to jump into a thred about one of the most controversial Iris Oct 2012 #24

Was I talking to you? No, I wasn't. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #31

RE: bodily autonomy porphyrian Oct 2012 #19

military drafts Iris Oct 2012 #22

At least we got rid of those...for now. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #23

Young men still have to register when they turn 18. Iris Oct 2012 #25

True. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #27

My mother is against abortion, but she doesn't want women to die who choose to have them... cynatnite Oct 2012 #28

And there's also the other side. If a government can tell you you MUST have a baby, it can also tell Iris Oct 2012 #30

"it can also tell you you cannot" -- that is the REAL "pro-abortion" position. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #68

Presumption Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #32

Not quite true. You did lay out a coercive plan for women who find themselves in this position. Iris Oct 2012 #33

No Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #38

Why should a woman have to consult anyone else besides her doctor? Lars39 Oct 2012 #50

Exactly. This is exactly what I'm saying. Iris Oct 2012 #82

Its not exclusion although you can try to spin it that way. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #35

I disagree. Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #40

What else are you progressive about? Iris Oct 2012 #43

Progressive Positions Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #51

I strongly disagree with you on the pro-birth position but liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #55

#55 Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #60

Pro-Environmet and Pro-Birth? Viking12 Oct 2012 #76

Nope, its not. But good luck with that position. Pro CHOICE and Pro-Medical Privacy are progressive riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #44

Boo hoo hoo REP Oct 2012 #49

+1000 Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #53

Rep Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #54

I see handwaving and hiding behind the words of others REP Oct 2012 #56

Tell me about it. Exactly half of this person's post are on THIS thread. Alerts mean nothing here. Iris Oct 2012 #64

???? Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #67

More boo-hooing; still no addressing the issues. Not at all surprised. REP Oct 2012 #79

This is my body. Avalux Oct 2012 #36

Understand Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #41

Medical ethics boards are not involved for every medical procedure. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #58

Why is it that people against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place? backscatter712 Oct 2012 #69

The War on Drugs really negates the "right to do with one's own body" argument... Romulox Oct 2012 #73

I wish those would be brought up more REP Oct 2012 #80

Enter the fetus teleporter. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #81