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Jedi Guy

(3,459 posts)
44. I understand the anger, absolutely.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jan 2022

But what separates us from them is that we don't act on emotion. We have to take a breath, take a step back, calm down. And who's coddling anyone? I never said anything about absolving this kid (or any racist) of guilt or giving them a pass. What I said was that the punishment should be proportional to the act committed.

Jailing someone for an assault makes sense. This kid didn't hurt or kill anyone. No doubt he thought it'd be funny to provoke people. The way forward here is to educate him and make him understand that even though no one was injured, his words and actions still caused harm, even if the effects aren't visible to the eye.

Racists have to be offered the chance to come back from their ways. If there is zero possibility of redemption, that discourages them from even trying to leave that lifestyle and belief system, because why bother? If you can't be forgiven for a sin, where is the incentive to stop committing it? For those who sincerely repent and make a good faith attempt to make amends, I don't see the harm in offering grace and forgiveness.

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Seems To Be Learned Behavior ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #1
Absolutely transgenerational! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #5
Maybe been at it since he was a small kid with his peers Norbert Jan 2022 #69
The little puke North Shore Chicago Jan 2022 #2
What a truly liberal notion. Loki Liesmith Jan 2022 #7
As is post 6. MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2022 #9
Well, at least they're not calling for his execution. Lancero Jan 2022 #32
Yes, that will certainly encourage him to change the way he thinks... Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #25
Two things: North Shore Chicago Jan 2022 #37
I understand the anger, absolutely. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #44
Obviously I am far more jaded than you. North Shore Chicago Jan 2022 #58
Thank you for the compliment, it's appreciated. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #122
"We don't Act on Emotion" is simply not true, and never was. msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #85
Allow me to clarify, then. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #91
I gotcha... I agree we shouldn't allow our visceral responses to act violently msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #93
I thought we were on the way back in the 1970s SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #45
I maintain that racism overall has changed in several ways. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #79
My take is a little different SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #94
Alas, racism will always be with us. It'll never be fully eradicated, I think. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #103
I hope you're wrong SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #108
I would love to be wrong on this. Alas, human nature being what it is... N/T Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #123
Deprogramming and reprogramming can help and heal MyMission Jan 2022 #76
100% he thought of it as a prank. I guarantee those will be his exact words to the cops. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #82
I can't even blame a 17 year old TheFarseer Jan 2022 #113
Not a typical view here. LiberatedUSA Jan 2022 #114
I hear you. North Shore Chicago Jan 2022 #115
17 is old enough to know right from wrong Skittles Jan 2022 #128
You would think in the year of 2022 the human race would be more advanced. Emile Jan 2022 #3
Hate Crime. multigraincracker Jan 2022 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #6
Summmary executions. How "Democratic" Loki Liesmith Jan 2022 #8
Ain't that the truth. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2022 #11
Funny, a poster told me just yesterday that no one here ever wishes harm on anyone else. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #13
Ha, that's a doozy. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #27
Exactly. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #33
Yeah, my favorite thus far is the one who wants to turn loose the execution squads. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #36
See it here all the time. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #40
Clearly that person closes their eyes and memory to posts they'd rather not see... N/T Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #124
Who do you think would be worse in a... LiberatedUSA Jan 2022 #111
Hmm. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #125
Honestly, I think both sides would be equally reprehensible, just in different ways. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #126
I'd argue it wasn't "lately" UnderThisLaw Jan 2022 #15
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #24
Any other groups you're okay with summarily executing? Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #35
Lol! BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #41
I think that it's Ok ForgedCrank Jan 2022 #90
Well WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #54
how do you decide who gets that label? treestar Jan 2022 #65
Considering WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #68
You said summary execution treestar Jan 2022 #129
Have fun putting your death squads together, I guess. I want no part of it. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #87
Cool WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #89
If summary execution of all those you dislike is a game to you, I feel very sorry for you. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #92
Well this is a yikes Sympthsical Jan 2022 #46
Excellent question. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #56
It was a thought Sympthsical Jan 2022 #61
Yikes WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #57
So there are history books on Amazon Sympthsical Jan 2022 #62
????? WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #64
Start with general Sympthsical Jan 2022 #71
Wonderful advice! BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #72
Help me WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #74
Confusing WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #73
Whooossshhh. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #77
Okay WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #80
Nah. nt BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #81
Good luck with you endeavors. WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #83
"Your." BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #84
You seem pretty hostile WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #86
I still have the pm you sent me some time ago. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #106
No Sympthsical Jan 2022 #88
You misspelled "education" TheProle Jan 2022 #104
Sure, just like if you're not guilty, there's no risk in talking to the police. Dr. Strange Jan 2022 #107
Wow! A voice of logic, moderation and reason. jcmaine72 Jan 2022 #110
It is my curse and burden. Dr. Strange Jan 2022 #117
You sure you're in the right place? nt MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2022 #10
Ok, but let multigraincracker Jan 2022 #12
Try this racist as an adult. dalton99a Jan 2022 #14
This is the perfect example where juvenile charges are warranted. NutmegYankee Jan 2022 #105
lol this fuckin thread WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2022 #16
yeah. It went crazy quickly. Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #116
He has the potential to become a national Republican Party figure. Chainfire Jan 2022 #17
No doubt president of his local young republican club RAB910 Jan 2022 #18
We like to think the racists went away in the 60s. They are still here, there's more of them Walleye Jan 2022 #19
They are more outspoken PatSeg Jan 2022 #22
Yep. They have been hiding among us all along. I still don't know what they get out of it Walleye Jan 2022 #28
I suppose it is recognition and acknowledgement PatSeg Jan 2022 #38
I guess it is the attraction of a gang or a cult to be a part of something. It's pitiful Walleye Jan 2022 #43
Yes, very much like a gang or a cult PatSeg Jan 2022 #52
This is a 17 year old treestar Jan 2022 #66
Yes, I know and kids love to do things that are taboo, but still I'd like to see his parents Walleye Jan 2022 #67
Teens often do things to both shock and repel without thinking through the consequences of their jcmaine72 Jan 2022 #100
"They are still here, there's more of them" Not a chance that is true EX500rider Jan 2022 #121
You can't legislate hate out of people's minds Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #20
I feel sad for this child; he was taught to do this by adults. yardwork Jan 2022 #21
Just as likely he got the attitude and/or idea from an internet cesspool like 4chan. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #30
Online or in person, the perpetrators were likely adults. yardwork Jan 2022 #39
You'd be surprised, I think. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #47
Yes, it isn't always the parents or family PatSeg Jan 2022 #42
Yep, that's exactly what 4chan is. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #50
Yes, we all do what is necessary to survive PatSeg Jan 2022 #55
I'd go looking for his social media Sympthsical Jan 2022 #49
Jail is too good for this little boy Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #23
He should be forced to take an intensive course in critical race theory Walleye Jan 2022 #29
I agree with taking an educational approach here rather than punitive n/t jcmaine72 Jan 2022 #95
Me too. But with some people education itself is punitive Walleye Jan 2022 #97
LOL..true jcmaine72 Jan 2022 #101
I feel like several years of hard labor for a stupid prank is a little extreme. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #31
You have your opinion Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #34
This is obvious. I think your opinion is over the top and ridiculous, as I've said. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #48
Yes, we will have to agree to disagree Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #51
Forgive me, but did I say or imply you weren't entitled to your opinion? I don't recall doing so. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #59
Again, we will have to agree to disagree Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #60
I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. :) Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #127
Right there is ForgedCrank Jan 2022 #98
Hey, he's wearing a mask! Orrex Jan 2022 #26
He'll be a maga hero.. probably a trip to Mar-a-lago mountain grammy Jan 2022 #53
Oh the irony inthewind21 Jan 2022 #63
Stay classy, South Carolina. Aristus Jan 2022 #70
It's not just South Carolina. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #96
racists ruin everything n/t gay texan Jan 2022 #75
Altering a traffic warning sign is pretty reckless Torchlight Jan 2022 #78
Wow, that seems like pretty crappy sign software security gulliver Jan 2022 #99
Yeah, I bet the password required to alter the sign text was the word "password". jcmaine72 Jan 2022 #102
I wouldn't have a clue how to do that. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #118
The human mind has its flaws. LiberatedUSA Jan 2022 #109
His name will get out and he will have a terrible life. Swede Jan 2022 #112
i think that should be a 7 year in the slammer sentence. Trueblue1968 Jan 2022 #119
All I needed to see was which State/Region this happened in. No surprise. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2022 #120
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