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In reply to the discussion: Manchin and Sinema [View all]

Irish_Dem

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28. Because she is crazy, she is the easy one to flip.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:20 PM
Jan 2022

Manchin was the harder one to turn. So McConnell had to promise and deliver more to Manchin. Which has paid off handsomely for McConnell.

Manchin has been the one who has delivered to McConnell the most damage to Biden and the Democratic Party. Manchin's relentless attack on issues and process are like launched missiles. McConnell by himself could never have done so much damage.

This by the way is the tell. If Manchin had just stated how he was going to vote and left it at that, I would not be so suspicious of hi. But his constant and relentless attacks on Biden and our party serve only one purpose, and that purpose aligns with McConnell.

I think we can safely assume that McConnell has full psy-op profiles on all sitting US senators, even his own party. And full background checks going back to childhood. This would certainly explain his grip on every one.

Manchin is a narcissistic personality disorder, maybe sociopathic as well.
His ego is fairly strong and intact. Not easily damaged.

Sinema on the other hand seems more ego fragile, blurred sense of reality, has an insatiable appetite for money and approval. She would be a very easy target.

I think McConnell made up his mind he was never going to lose his iron grip on power again. And I think this is a man who always has a Plan B. So when the polls looked bad in Ga. he know what had to be done.

In terms of our side doing it, I think we can assume it has been tried. But we cannot pry GOP senators away from McConnell. He is like the godfather, you don't really want to cross him.

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I think they were flipped by McConnell. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #1
I think you're right, as least as regards to Sinema wackadoo wabbit Jan 2022 #25
I agree, Simena 90/10, Manchin 50/50. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #26
I believe that wholeheartedly about Manchin. I think Sinema is just crazy. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #27
Because she is crazy, she is the easy one to flip. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #28
Sinema's speech on the filibuster sounded like a high school composition Walleye Jan 2022 #2
IMHO, she's a case of arrested development...was stunned to allegorical oracle Jan 2022 #21
Interesting since she has a Ph.D and a law degree. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #29
Good point. It sounded like it was deliberately dumbed down Walleye Jan 2022 #34
Dumbed down, disingenuous, dishonest. It was a torpedo, not a speech. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #35
So the Biden Administration was killed by two stabs in the back, they may kill the Democratic dem4decades Jan 2022 #3
Manchin doesn't need to torpedo the Democratic Party to maintain his seat. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #30
It's almost impossible to keep calling them Democrats. They are doing the GOP's work for them. hadEnuf Jan 2022 #4
M and S are traitors to their states and party. You're right: They know what's at stake here Trueblue1968 Jan 2022 #17
They have done more damage than the GOP could have ever done. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #31
Here's DUer msongs' thread about MANCHIN's "boss" history killing the Dem party in WV UTUSN Jan 2022 #5
There has to be a vote, Miguelito Loveless Jan 2022 #6
Agreed... Salviati Jan 2022 #8
Dark money! BlueJac Jan 2022 #7
I would like to know who is behind the Sinema and Manchin betrayal. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #32
... won't ever get another campaign contribution from this voter. calimary Jan 2022 #9
It makes me wonder quakerboy Jan 2022 #16
Depends on how well or poorly we do in November. calimary Jan 2022 #22
And then what? quakerboy Jan 2022 #36
Their behavior is disturbing. Politicub Jan 2022 #10
Would somebody please correct me if I'm wrong? KS Toronado Jan 2022 #11
That messaging bill gambit was all kabuki theatre, as I explained over and over at the time, and Celerity Jan 2022 #13
"as I explained over and over at the time" KS Toronado Jan 2022 #15
I just examined it, we still needed 60 votes for cloture to cut off debate and move to a final vote Celerity Jan 2022 #19
here is a link to the OP Celerity Jan 2022 #20
Bribery doesn't cost, it pays. The Wizard Jan 2022 #12
Don't hold anything back, man. Firestorm49 Jan 2022 #14
Tell it, Bro! 11 Bravo Jan 2022 #18
Nothing to flame here 👍 Tribetime Jan 2022 #23
A couple of positive moves today, but... LudwigPastorius Jan 2022 #24
Whatever they were promised for their betrayal outweighs whatever we can do to them. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #33
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