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uponit7771

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30. Nope, Manchin is not CONSITENTLY stating a "bypass" is available for voting rights. This bullshit ..

Wed Jan 19, 2022, 05:32 PM

Jan 2022

... of Manchin inconsistently stating a position on the filibuster stops here.

The fact we even need a lawyer and a couple of forum supporters to understand where Manchin and Sinema are at on voter rights speaks volumes in itself.

They allowed changes to the filibuster for debt ceiling, PERIOD ... they didn't state any of that was needed BEFORE

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Joe Manchin finally makes it plain: He is in favor of minority rule [View all] Nevilledog Jan 2022 OP

Right up until we are the minority. That fucking pos will standing back and stand by while onecaliberal Jan 2022 #1

Only white minority rule will do. dchill Jan 2022 #2

The only minority manchin is concerned for is dweller Jan 2022 #3

He's lying, he was fine with changing filibuster for debt ceiling uponit7771 Jan 2022 #4

Didn't Republicans vote for that? AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #7

He wouldn't be fine, he's already said he doesn't want the voter rights bills at this time and right uponit7771 Jan 2022 #14

You dodged the question FBaggins Jan 2022 #28

Nope, Manchin is not CONSITENTLY stating a "bypass" is available for voting rights. This bullshit .. uponit7771 Jan 2022 #30

Not sure where you get that FBaggins Jan 2022 #31

Link and quote, you knew that was coming right ?! tia uponit7771 Jan 2022 #32

What link? FBaggins Jan 2022 #33

Nah, need a link and quote on that. Manchin made that CLEAR multiple times for the last year uponit7771 Jan 2022 #34

Let's see if you understand how this works FBaggins Jan 2022 #35

That's still not a link and quote stating Manchin is for same bypass for voter rights, he needs it.. uponit7771 Jan 2022 #36

Still dodging? FBaggins Jan 2022 #37

Yes I do, Manchin / Sinema have not been straight forward. Now, link and quote? tia uponit7771 Jan 2022 #38

Laughable FBaggins Jan 2022 #39

OK, 3 times and I've answered your question but you refuse to link and quote his EXPLICIT ... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #40

Clicking reply does not mean that you've answered the question. FBaggins Jan 2022 #42

You asked, "Manchin cosponsored those bills. Do you really think that he'll vote "no" on cloture?" uponit7771 Jan 2022 #43

Very well then FBaggins Jan 2022 #44

Matters which cloture it is, he's not been straightforward and I'm sick of the lawyer speak from him uponit7771 Jan 2022 #47

There's only one cloture vote scheduled FBaggins Jan 2022 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Jan 2022 #49

A meaningful cloture vote in favor of forwarding gating federal voter rights. Not just one for uponit7771 Jan 2022 #50

That's sorta the point FBaggins Jan 2022 #51

And now that you've been proven wrong... FBaggins Jan 2022 #54

So Manchin voted to end BOTH cloture procedures or just one ?! I even called him out on that... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #55

No he didn't LetsGoBiden Jan 2022 #41

This is false, Manchin claimed he didn't want the first H1 bill and cowrote another bill ... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #46

I agree LetsGoBiden Jan 2022 #52

he is a cosponsor on the other VR bill but like changed his mind on HIS BBB 1.8 trillion bill ... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #53

that and he doesn't support black people having an equal vote samsingh Jan 2022 #5

How do Black people specifically not currently have an equal vote? madville Jan 2022 #57

The Filibuster Is Corporate America's Kill Switch mopinko Jan 2022 #6

+10000000000000000 Celerity Jan 2022 #9

We need to kill the "kill switch" Mad_Machine76 Jan 2022 #10

+1, I think we have a chance if we treat this midterm as a turnout presidential election if we uponit7771 Jan 2022 #16

Agreed Mad_Machine76 Jan 2022 #20

No shit...are you putting in the money and time to make sure fwvinson Jan 2022 #22

This in a nutshell n/t Sympthsical Jan 2022 #27

Concerning the topic of the talking filibuster, Manchin is lying. He has indeed changed his mind. Efilroft Sul Jan 2022 #8

there is a HUGE difference between what we are trying to pass as a 'talking filibuster' and then the Celerity Jan 2022 #12

Hmmmm, well make him vote for that then. It'll be a slight step in the right direction and if he ... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #17

He makes for a good assistant Republican. Efilroft Sul Jan 2022 #18

Well the Manchin is the only dem that can win fans should be pleased! Emile Jan 2022 #11

If Justice runs against Manchin (IF Manchin even runs) in 2024, Justice will likely beat him like a Celerity Jan 2022 #15

That right there is why we must run a real democrat. The Democratic voters of WV deserve a chance Emile Jan 2022 #21

It's Manchin or a Republican madville Jan 2022 #56

Moderate Centrist Manchin sabotaged President Biden and our right to vote! Emile Jan 2022 #58

I don't support his actions madville Jan 2022 #59

He is in favor of minority rule as long as Democrats are not the minority. Autumn Jan 2022 #13

And he's full of it too. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #19

Mitch McConnell Corgigal Jan 2022 #23

and republicans have made it clear that their only plan is obstruction EleanorR Jan 2022 #24

Congress can't govern. The executive branch will simply absorb more and more of its function Johonny Jan 2022 #25

Filibuster guarantees us a "do-little congress" KS Toronado Jan 2022 #26

The author is the disingenuous one in this case FBaggins Jan 2022 #29

Consistent LetsGoBiden Jan 2022 #45

I'd like to see Manchin and Sinema shunned. By media and by their "colleagues." phylny Jan 2022 #60

and DUers Emile Jan 2022 #61