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George II

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82. Could you explain that to me step by step please? So six progressive members of the House voted....

Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:46 PM

Jan 2022

...against BIF in order to put Manchin "over a barrel" and force HIM to vote for it in the Senate out of desperation?

Is that the point? If not, and I'm missing the point, why not explain the point. Weren't you talking about "hoops" a little earlier?

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The Squad was right to vote against infrastructure bill Part 4: Manchin "starts over" on BBB [View all] wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 OP

. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #1

Indeed, there is no room for rebuttal wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #2

. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #3

Progressives told us this would happen. FoxNewsSucks Jan 2022 #46

K&R. nt DLevine Jan 2022 #4

one suspec ts manchin's final stance was always going to happen nt msongs Jan 2022 #5

"some people here"? Do you know what a 50-50 Senate means? Instead of focusing on attacks JohnSJ Jan 2022 #6

"We were unsuccessful, keep voting for us" is never a winning campaign message wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #13

Really? I suppose putting Republicans in office would move progressive policies along. Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #64

Remember when people said that it had to be Biden because he could work across the aisle? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2022 #58

That was the illustrious media. I never heard anyone here believe that we could get anything passed JohnSJ Jan 2022 #65

Yes we would be much better off with nothing... cinematicdiversions Jan 2022 #7

We were able to pass the Rescue Act wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #10

No. Unemployment benefit had to be cut from $400 to $300 and the period shortened and betsuni Jan 2022 #20

We gave him his pound of flesh while standing firm wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #21

But you said "we didn't budge." There was budging, as usual. That's how dealmaking is done. betsuni Jan 2022 #23

We were able to pass it because it got more Yea than Nay votes. Manchin and Sinema voted for it. George II Jan 2022 #55

I haven't seen it - and don't like the 'Squad' moniker JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #8

She has explained her "no" vote already wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #12

She's going to have to JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #19

If someone has to explain their vote then that someone has already lost the war. TexasTowelie Jan 2022 #48

This? betsuni Jan 2022 #49

Wrong squad member wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #60

Notice most of them explained their "no" votes AFTER their "no" votes. Fact is, in life.... George II Jan 2022 #66

I find it ridiculous Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2022 #59

What indication is there that their constituents demanded an all or nothing position? brooklynite Jan 2022 #90

In other news water is wet. Manchin is working with Republicons to block the Biden agenda. onecaliberal Jan 2022 #9

The Dems should ignore manchin. just another cruel time wasting stunt that will come to nothing PortTack Jan 2022 #31

Someone is paying him to do it. onecaliberal Jan 2022 #32

No doubt! PortTack Jan 2022 #35

Only those with their head in the sand thought otherwise budkin Jan 2022 #11

Don't need suicide squads tirebiter Jan 2022 #14

It's "right" for members of Congress to vote against the interests of their constituents? Two... George II Jan 2022 #15

We already discussed what BIF will allocate to MTA wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #16

I was in college at the northern end of the Bowery in the late '60s..... George II Jan 2022 #26

Geez They voted NO on THIS ⬆️. Budi Jan 2022 #45

Manchin still trying to blow smoke up our asses! Emile Jan 2022 #17

The squad didn't push hard enough to kill BIF FrankBooth Jan 2022 #18

This JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #28

Yep WHITT Jan 2022 #22

And by corporate Dems AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #24

Obviously Not WHITT Jan 2022 #27

Why are you trying to Cha Jan 2022 #25

You're Confused WHITT Jan 2022 #30

I Know that.. and she voted Cha Jan 2022 #33

Yes WHITT Jan 2022 #34

The only no votes were the Squad AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #36

TY! Cha Jan 2022 #38

You're Thoroughly Confused WHITT Jan 2022 #50

All you have are Cha Jan 2022 #37

Sorry WHITT Jan 2022 #51

What exactly constitutes a "corporate dem"? You've used that term a few times now. George II Jan 2022 #54

Ah WHITT Jan 2022 #70

Where, and when? Reminder - NO elected officials can receive "corporate dough". It's illegal. George II Jan 2022 #74

That Hoop Is Retired WHITT Jan 2022 #76

I have over 67,000. Not going to bother checking them, especially since the "corporate dem".... George II Jan 2022 #77

Interesting WHITT Jan 2022 #80

What exactly constitutes a "corporate dem"? Seems it's a moving target sometimes. George II Jan 2022 #40

Ridiculous. NurseJackie Jan 2022 #29

It might be better in the end that we got something instead of nothing, but... Silent3 Jan 2022 #39

But the bottom line is that six House Democrats voted against BIF anyway. George II Jan 2022 #41

They knew the bill would pass without their votes... Silent3 Jan 2022 #43

The Squad was wrong...Manchin doesn't give a fuck about infrastucture!! Wanderlust988 Jan 2022 #42

+1 betsuni Jan 2022 #47

Then WHITT Jan 2022 #52

One of the members of the House who voted against BIF appeared with Roy Blunt to brag about.... George II Jan 2022 #53

Before, Not After WHITT Jan 2022 #71

Before, not after what? The Representative I referred to appeared with Blount after BIF was passed. George II Jan 2022 #73

Exactly WHITT Jan 2022 #75

What was Manchin bragging about "before" BIF passed? Remember, he voted FOR it, so any bragging.... George II Jan 2022 #78

Missed The Point Once Again WHITT Jan 2022 #81

Could you explain that to me step by step please? So six progressive members of the House voted.... George II Jan 2022 #82

I'm Afraid You Took The Wrong Exit Ramp WHITT Jan 2022 #83

Why not explain? betsuni Jan 2022 #84

Posted It Three Times Already WHITT Jan 2022 #86

Where? Something about Manchin DESPERATELY needing infrastructure? betsuni Jan 2022 #87

Bullshit WHITT Jan 2022 #91

Could you post some links? betsuni Jan 2022 #92

Links To What? WHITT Jan 2022 #94

You told me, "Try watching his interviews with local tv." betsuni Jan 2022 #96

Swing And A Miss WHITT Jan 2022 #97

Again, can you explain this to me? If you don't want to, that's okay. George II Jan 2022 #93

Couldn't Be Any Simpler WHITT Jan 2022 #95

All the other republicans did that too lame54 Jan 2022 #69

After, Not Before WHITT Jan 2022 #72

+1000. It was a very bad idea to hold back the BIF, Nixie Jan 2022 #61

Omg. No. They wasted all summer fking around with a BBB that was never going to pass Budi Jan 2022 #44

Excellent analysis. The daily visuals of fighting wound up Nixie Jan 2022 #62

For shame to all who didn't and don't commit to passing it. Hortensis Jan 2022 #56

Thorough and generally *excellent* analysis. Ursus Rex Jan 2022 #57

They Voted Against the needs of their own States. Budi Jan 2022 #67

Nope, they were wrong. We would have nothing. The Child tax credit and paid family leave are Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #63

No shit. Voltaire2 Jan 2022 #68

Exactly, the left was correct on this one. Manchinema lied radius777 Jan 2022 #79

What does "get tougher" mean, exactly? betsuni Jan 2022 #85

How (and why) should they get tougher? They voted against the Infrastructure bill..... George II Jan 2022 #88

Correct malaise Jan 2022 #89