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kentuck

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12. What is their alibi for the "alternate" ballots?

Sat Jan 29, 2022, 12:00 PM

Jan 2022

I heard Stephen Miller on a clip say that they were just going to be ready if the courts ruled in their favor in those states. He said they were only exhausting all their "legal options".

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Fake Electors - Fake Election Propaganda - Mail Fraud Federal Felony [View all] MineralMan Jan 2022 OP

Especially in the states Joe Biden won... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2022 #1

Yes, Absolutely. MineralMan Jan 2022 #6

I agree with you 100%. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jan 2022 #2

The Ringleader aka the Slobfather malaise Jan 2022 #3

Yes, indeed. MineralMan Jan 2022 #90

Exactly, and if they can tie them to people in the Whitehouse, like Rudy, Meadows, Trumps lawyers. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #4

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Jan 2022 #9

Were the fake electors the hub of the conspiracy? kentuck Jan 2022 #5

The picture has been clear for some time. MineralMan Jan 2022 #7

What is their alibi for the "alternate" ballots? kentuck Jan 2022 #12

There is no valid excuse for signing fraudulent documents. MineralMan Jan 2022 #13

Agreed. kentuck Jan 2022 #18

Yes. That they actually mailed the false documents MineralMan Jan 2022 #25

Mail Fraud has big teeth Claire Oh Nette Jan 2022 #85

Hey MM DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #63

No, I don't worry about any of that, frankly. MineralMan Jan 2022 #67

I hope DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #64

I think you are mistaken dpibel Jan 2022 #72

You know what? I don't really care what you think MineralMan Jan 2022 #74

You are stating things as fact, not opinion dpibel Jan 2022 #79

See my signature line. MineralMan Jan 2022 #80

What is the sense of opinions about facts? dpibel Jan 2022 #83

.. MineralMan Jan 2022 #84

So how about onenote? dpibel Jan 2022 #93

They signed their names to documents that said they were the official electors. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #27

They have only subpoenaed the two top electors from each of these states... kentuck Jan 2022 #30

That's entirely possible. MineralMan Jan 2022 #39

It does look that way drray23 Jan 2022 #44

Grassley is up to his eyeballs in this. Pence *knew* that he was going to be "taken out" erronis Jan 2022 #46

Come on DOJ, it's been over a year now. Emile Jan 2022 #8

Patience. None of this is news to the DOJ. MineralMan Jan 2022 #11

People have to understand Garland has to take his time and get things right. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #17

Exactly. I understand the impatience, but MineralMan Jan 2022 #19

I know, but I think they could get a lot more information if Emile Jan 2022 #24

Perhaps so. Things are still unfolding. MineralMan Jan 2022 #26

Yep, I need to stock up on popcorn! Emile Jan 2022 #29

Indeed. Popcorn farts all around. MineralMan Jan 2022 #33

I'm right there with you. Firestorm49 Jan 2022 #14

I remember this too FelineOverlord Jan 2022 #15

Yes. There it is in video. MineralMan Jan 2022 #16

Self incrimination much? malaise Jan 2022 #20

As I recall, there was a bunch of cops in the building... kentuck Jan 2022 #23

So a month later they arrived at the Capitol in DC mountain grammy Jan 2022 #57

That guy speaking at the end is completely full of shit leftieNanner Jan 2022 #68

Strangely reminiscent of this photo from 2000 Lasher Jan 2022 #69

That immediately came to mind. joshcryer Jan 2022 #94

...K&R... spanone Jan 2022 #21

They are coming up with the excuse, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #22

Was Rudy the lawyer that told them it was legal? kentuck Jan 2022 #28

That's not going to work. MineralMan Jan 2022 #31

I'm just saying gab13by13 Jan 2022 #45

You should let the 11th Circuit know about this right away! dpibel Jan 2022 #52

Off to the Greatest! Mme. Defarge Jan 2022 #32

Lets see; Mail fraud, conspiracy to commit election fraud, attempting to interfere in a official fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #34

Seditious conspiracy? kentuck Jan 2022 #35

I believe that charge will be reserved for the leaders, who instigated MineralMan Jan 2022 #37

I heard Dan Goldman say they can be charged with seditious conspiracy. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #48

That should be enough, I think, at least for those MineralMan Jan 2022 #36

The more people indicted the better the chance someone will tell all. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #38

Oh, with a 20 year possible mail fraud prison sentence, there MineralMan Jan 2022 #43

The mail fraud is the provable federal crime for every signee. halfulglas Jan 2022 #40

Yes. That charge is a no-brainer. MineralMan Jan 2022 #41

Did every person who signed the fake document gab13by13 Jan 2022 #49

What would be the point of signing it if it wouldn't be sent? MineralMan Jan 2022 #54

Indeed, as claimed electors... joshcryer Jan 2022 #96

That is a valid point. Intent has to be known and proven beyond reasonable doubt. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #56

Proving intent, how about this? fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #66

This is provable. joshcryer Jan 2022 #95

By the way, the penalty for Mail Fraud is 20 years in prison maximum. MineralMan Jan 2022 #42

K&R! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #47

Enjoying this post, MM - and especially your ongoing comments. erronis Jan 2022 #50

I have confidence that it will all play out. MineralMan Jan 2022 #55

In general, the American people have a long history of sleep walking through life, until fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #58

Yes. There is a lot of potential in the open hearings. MineralMan Jan 2022 #60

The timing may work out for the elections, but I hope and believe that that is not the purpose of erronis Jan 2022 #86

Of course. They did the crimes, and must be prosecuted for them. MineralMan Jan 2022 #88

It takes a thief to know a thief Puppyjive Jan 2022 #51

I hope action is taken. TxVietVet Jan 2022 #53

i think they may try to make the argument they were "hoodwinked" Takket Jan 2022 #59

Pretty much all of those fake "electors" are pretty savvy people. MineralMan Jan 2022 #61

All of the excuses I have heard from everyone involved in the coup are child like foolish. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #62

+100 MineralMan Jan 2022 #75

I hope they are also speaking with the electors that refused DeeNice Jan 2022 #65

Sure. As outsiders, we have less information than the pros have. MineralMan Jan 2022 #71

This investigation is going to be the largest investigation in our history. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #76

It's certainly looking that way to me, too. MineralMan Jan 2022 #77

Maximum Sentence for Federal Mail Fraud leftieNanner Jan 2022 #70

Yes, indeed. I mentioned that earlier, too. MineralMan Jan 2022 #73

You noticed what I did: Federal Mail Fraud. Keep it simple. nt Hekate Jan 2022 #81

Yup. There's no need to make it complicated. MineralMan Jan 2022 #82

They know who they are, why haven't they been arrested? spanone Jan 2022 #87

Federal crimes require grand jury indictments, unless they are caught in the act. MineralMan Jan 2022 #89

Thanks for the explanation. spanone Jan 2022 #91

Mail Fraud -- possible charge, but not a "no-brainer" onenote Jan 2022 #92

I think getting them to say they were "faithful electors"... joshcryer Jan 2022 #97